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A new lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Riverside makes scathing allegations against San Bernardino County Sheriff-Coroner John McMahon, and others.
The lawsuit, filed April 11, 2014, by Barstow Attorney Robert Conaway, on behalf of plaintiff’s Tameca Shelton, Nashay Trice, Fay Young and Emma Jean Young, alleges that McMahon and others, either participated in, or attempted to cover-up, an early morning confrontation in December 2013, which occurred in a fast food restaurant drive-thru. A that time, plaintiff’s allege they were verbally and physically threatened, and assaulted by off-duty sheriff’s personnel.
The specific federal and state causes of action alleged include, among other things, conspiracy, common law battery, retaliation, civil rights violations and negligence.
The plaintiffs’ complaint further allege:
- The defendants, who, according to the complaint, had been drinking, directed racial slurs at them.
- Security surveillance videotape of the incident, which occurred at a Del Taco Restaurant in the city of Adelanto, was recovered, and then later destroyed or erased by Sheriff’s Department employees.
- Sheriff’s employees locked them in the back of a patrol unit for four hours.
The case, Shelton v. McMahon, Case No. EDCV14-00711-JGB-SPx, is pending the the U.S. District Court, Central Disrict of California, Eastern Division.
A search of the San Bernardino County Superior Case Database reflects no criminal charges are pending against any of the four plaintiffs’.
To read the complaint, click the following link: Shelton v. McMahon
You read it here first. OUCH!!!
This lawsuit just does not have any ring of truth behind it. It’s a typical lawsuit filed that presents only one side of the story. I’m sure there is more to it than two nice sisters having a return to the drive-thru to politely seek some food they had not received when they were violent accosted by off duty sheriff employees. Come on! Now, what is the most entertaining facts as established by these innocent people is that Sheriff John McMahon was working at 3:30 am in the morning working as a watch commander in Adelanto. Some things just don’t ring true, which as most of us realize indicates that it simply isn’t true. nice try to get an easy buck.
“A new lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Riverside makes scathing allegations against San Bernardino County Sheriff-Coroner John McMahon.
…alleges that McMahon and others, in December 2013 confrontation in a fast food restaurant drive-thru, verbally and physically threatened and assaulted them.”
Anonymous on October 23rd, 2013 10:54 am
AHH!!! I was right the other day when I said, “ARE WE SO FAR FROM BEING HUMAN DO TO THE CONTAMINATED WATER…”
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>>> NOW WHO DO WE “THANK” FOR MCMAHON’S APPOINTMENT- I FORGOT!!
Anonymous on December 22nd, 2013 11:58 am
NWS Meteorologist Eric Boldt wants to know,
“WHO FEELS THE PINCH”?????
IRONICALLY, *NOT* US OUT IN THE DESERT- WE’RE UNDER (CONTAMINATED) WATER.
AND WE FINALLY PINPOINTED WHAT WAS CAUSING BRAIN DAMAGE THROUGHOUT THE INLAND EMPIRE- IT WAS OUR DRINKING WATER.
HOPEFULLY THE NEWLY INSTALLED FILTERS WILL SOON SHOW SIGNS OF REVERSAL.
Anonymous on October 23rd, 2013 10:54 am
AHH!!! I was right the other day when I said, “ARE WE SO FAR FROM BEING HUMAN DO TO THE CONTAMINATED WATER…”
In fact, I think San Brenardino County IS underwater….
OH NO!!! Are we the long lost city of BIKINI BOTTOM???????!
Josie/Patrick: I’m mad.
James/Spongebob: What’s the matter Patrick?
Josie/Patrick: I can’t see my forehead.
Josie/Patrick: Are you Squidward?
Lovingood/Fire Hydrant: ……….
Josie/Patrick: That’s okay take your time.
Ovitt/Mermaid Man: We don’t really have these powers! The powers are in the costumes. Why else would we wear underwear over our pants?
Janice/Sandy: You’re nothing but pure evil! Just like the newspaper comics!
McMahon/Spongebob: Hey Patrick.. I know something funnier than 24!
Josie/Patrick: Yeah???
McMahon/Spongebob: ….25!
Both: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Devereux/Plankton: That’s it mister! YOU JUST LOST YOUR BRAIN PRIVILEGES
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Anonymous on November 26th, 2012 3:30 pm
“Josie just wants an excuse to appoint now and ask for direction later”
=== I will repeat again, just in case:
“RESPECT for our COUNTY SHERIFF should be the main prerequisite.
McMahon’s close association with Hoops does NOT inspire respect, but rather
FEAR and SUSPICION
…he should be crossed off the list.
“I’m sure there is more to it than two nice sisters having a return to the drive-thru to politely seek some food…”
COULD BE… LET’S HOPE SO… BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HANDLING OF THE SITUATION?? JUSTIFIED?
Is McMahon a liar and racist? Sounds convincing.
No arrest or charges, so the girls must be nice. What’s not nice is destroying the video tape. Would you not want that so our beloved Sheriff could prove he did NOTHING wrong?
Nice to see James compelling comment that will get this case dismissed very soon. NOT.
Ken ignore Mills he is a bad drunk for years.
This lawsuit is complete BS. Just wait and see. Better yet for you smart people, read it yourself. If you can see the numerous holes and problems with it, then you have a brain. What is shocking to me, is that Kenny can’t see it. His bias is just so consumed with hatred that he is willing to stick his name on the line for some BS like this. Any investigator can poke 100 holes in this alleged incident. I do understand that Kenny never made it to detective, but I thought that even a deputy would have been able to see how much BS this is. This lawsuit is frivolous and nothing more than a ploy to earn a buck and nothing more than an attempt by some to disgrace the sheriff. Not going to happen today boys. Hey Kenny, is this the big one you were talking about??? Lol.
And your drunkness has become to obvious for most James.
Why don’t you collect your balls and confront the attorney who filed this case face to face and get back to us. Don’t pull the crap you did with Schrader on the IP address thing and hide. Put your name to it this mime or STFU.
Better yet take Casey Jiles up with you, at least you might have a complete set if you do.
NO this is NOT the best written lawsuit I have ever read in my travels.
So simple minded people such as yourself James need ask ONE question. Did this happen? Your saying it is 100’percent baseless as you usually do.
Then tell your butt buddy McMahon to PRODUCE the video tape that has possibly been destroyed. Second have his lawyers get this case dismissed via summary judgement before the election.
On thing for sure is the plantiffs lawyer isn’t waiting forever to get things rolling.
Kenny is a hero remember James? And your statements mean nothing McMahon is a bad sheriff for this county, one thing after another. Lets drink to that James.
The big one James will be when you finally grow some and face off with me, you corrupt pile of dung.
lol
Kenny the tale written here tells a lot, as does the story with Schrader and the IP address issue. I have no fight in this battle and why the hell would I confront either you or the attorney who files this lawsuit? You are and old hag and the attorney is filing a lawsuit based on an obvious claim by his client. Absolutely his right. My opinion is that it is completely baseless and although some incident obviously occurred, I hardly doubt it is as reported in the papers. If you believe it, then you are dumber than I thought. Have a blessed day and if you take the sheriffs name out of the lawsuit and read it with an open unbiased mind, you would see exactly what I’m talking about. Could you please summon the watch commander to del taco in Adelanto at 330 AM and see just how many times the sheriff himself shows up? Complete comedy.
Then don’t run your yap Mills unless your prepared or willing to back it up.
More information will come out it always does, but not in favor of your buddy.
Seems Steve Singley COUNTY COUNCIL, McMahon’s primary lawyer created this debacle with the plaintiffs. It appears Singley called McMahon at HOME and McMahon came to the scene to cover all this up. NO explanation or justification to hold ANYONE for 4 hours to cover some thing as minor as this seems to some.
McTool only lives 5 miles from this location.
McTool clearly ORDERED this cover up and the good little minions followed his direction. That’s why McTool gets tagged.
Another case of SBSD screwing with the wrong people and taking it to far.
Steve Singley is the TOOL who represented Rod Hoops in the Parkinson civil action. Something else you pussed out on mills when the facts came out.
So this bad ass jacks up some black women using racial comments then calls Johnny Boy to cover his OUTRAGEOUS conduct up.
I bet this POS was Duce too. Your as brain dead James as McMahon.
Mills is part of the gina brigade that protects McMahon.
The real question here is did the Sheriff direct anyone to cover up this incident in anyway. Who the off duties were is secondary. @17 you REALLY think someone pulled MCMahons name out of a hat????
I bet you been hoping Johnny wasn’t involved in the last 6 incidents.
EXHIBITION BOXING MATCH: James Mills VS. Anonymous
WIMPY:In a unanimous decision, all three judges had it for JAMES MILLS.
A) Filing a last minute lawsuit for a purely POLITICAL purpose, and the sole intent being to SLING MUD and falsely ***STAIN*** a candidates name, is just plain disgusting, negligent and wrong.
B) The CONTAMINATED WATER in the Inland Empire does not “DISCRIMINATE” based on religion, ethnicity or PROFESSION …. once the contaminants find their way to a brain suffering from a low immune system, the brain’s ability to THINK, RATIONALIZE, ASSES SITUATIONS, and to apply COMMON SENSE start to weaken and dwindle - thus so many frivolous lawsuits filed in San Bernardino County by weak-minded attorneys and plaintiffs:
1. 2010 District Attorney Race, ATTORNEY JAMES V. REISS FILED:
RISTOW -V- COUNTY OF SAN BERNARDINO, ET AL
Anonymous on June 25th, 2013 11:16 am
#7
Cheryl Ristow had full knowledge of District Attorney Mike Ramos’ history of being a shameless long time Play Boy. STILL, Ristow WILLINGLY ran around like a princess enjoying all the attention, glamor and perks that go along with dating a man in position of power and influence…
But when she, too, was easily disposed of, she called it “sexual harassment” and her scorn was fanned by attorney Reiss because he saw dollar signs and figured the county would buckle and settle.
THIS IS A STUPID CASE AND A WASTE OF TIME… Cheryl Ristow should feel shame for announcing this to the world, but I guess her bottom line was the money she was counting the BOS would fork over.
2. 2010 District Attorney Race, ATTORNEY C. PATRICK MILLIGAN FILED:
UN-V-GUZMAN
Anonymous on March 18th, 2014 12:37 pm
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San Bernardino County Sentinel
Lawsuit Against DA Candidate Guzman Thrown Out
November 19, 2010
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In making his case that Un’s lawsuit was a politically motivated act,
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Fawke dismissed the suit against Guzman on all counts and awarded him attorney’s fees.
3. 2014 SBC Sheriff Race, ATTORNEY ROBERT D. CONAWAY FILED:
Shelton-V- McMahon
THE OUTCOME IS PENDING… BUT AS MOST POLITICALLY MOTIVATED CASES GO… IT’S RATHER PREDICTABLE… THE KEY WORD HERE IS “INCIDENT”:
James mills on April 14th, 2014 2:04 pm
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“My opinion is that it is completely baseless and although some incident obviously occurred, I hardly doubt it is as reported in the papers…. and if you take the sheriffs name out of the lawsuit and read it with an open unbiased mind, you would see exactly what I’m talking about…. Complete comedy.”
>>> NOW EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO GRAB SOME TACOS AT DEL TACOS- JAMES MILLS IS DRAINING ME!!
WAIT, NO, NEVER MIND, I’LL WAIT FOR TOMORROW… TUESDAY IS TACO-TUESDAY, I SAY WE ALL GO AND GIVE *DEL TACO* A BURST OF BUSINESS TOMORROW!!!!!!!!! JUST BECAUSE.
p.s.
Kenneth Holtz, et al.
ah!!!!!!
blah blah blah!!!!!!!!!!!!
give it a rest- go to Del Taco!!!
I forgot,
JAMES MILLS, CONGRATULATIONS!!
I’m glad Mill mentioned Schrader. Let’s elect Paul and get the good old boys out. Enough of this coward of the county.
Denny thank for adding your hilarious commentary and tacos into the mix. You should have added your political purposes to the FBI investigation just announced. Have a taco for me Denny.
Yes I just read those comments. Interesting when people are being attacked by drunk off duty employees, beatin up, racial slurs thrown at them, then it’s covered up, and we who oppose such ongoing conduct with calm collect opposition.
I am laughing out loud when one talks about threats to someone when inmates are being chained to a fence and stunned with tazers. Or pepper spray being sprayed into their cells.
Or a deputy beating a man outside a bar then receiving 10 days in jail. Keeps his stripes and his job. Or another Deputy stops a motorist in a unmarked car and eventually slaps him because he is upset at the way the motorist was driving. The deputy was prosecuted but kept his job.
Or a deputy fired for taking car of his sick mom and ALL lies uncovered on that. Or the nurse fired for refusing to obey unlawful orders. That case wasn’t even contested.
Don’t be angry at the thugs who taser a guy 16 times and he dies, or shoot someone 13 and LIE about all that , then expect everyone to be nice.
I noticed this writer fails to mention the POST scandal and the cover up that took place and the passes given out to others and most of all the innocent man who was charged along the way.
Funny if anger was a issue with SBSD we would not be having this conversation, the FBI would not be here and the million dollar lawsuits wouldn’t be piling up.
Yeah the key to this lawsuit being bogus is the bad grammar used in the allegations.
Let certain past and present SBSD personnel talk trash but be nice when talking back.
Some haven’t figured out the two way street on all that just yet. I notice those who support McMahon aren’t putting their names behind any conversations around here or any where else if they can be asked questions by VERY NICE people.
Why is that?
#25…
>>> THIS EXHIBITION FIGHT ENDED AT 3:16PM!!!!!!
SO WHAT’S ALL YOUR RAMBLING ABOUT???????
OH YEAH… DIFFERENT CASES *NOT* RELATED TO THIS LAWSUIT!!!
CAN’T YOUR BRAIN SEPARATE THE DIFFERENCE IN EACH CASE???
PLEASE TAKE A DEEP BREATHS AND ONLY DRINK BOTTLED WATER FOR A WEEK.
AGAIN:
Anonymous on April 14th, 2014 3:16 pm
EXHIBITION BOXING MATCH: James Mills VS. Anonymous
WIMPY:In a unanimous decision, all three judges had it for JAMES MILLS.
p.s.
Kenneth Holtz, et al.
ah!!!!!!
blah blah blah!!!!!!!!!!!!
give it a rest- go to Del Taco!!!
Hey Mikey, your hometown City government in Redlands is being mismanaged almost as badly as the County SBSD is mismanaging the construction and staffing of the Adelanto Detention Center… and then IN COMES THE FBI!
Attorney Misconduct anyone?… of course when you’re the seated District Attorney condoning and practicing it himself, every Tom, Dick and Harry Law Firm in County is following suit.
“It’s a FREE-FOR-ALL baby.” The Nuge
State law and Federal mandates require fair labor, contracting and personnel management practices, to insure equal employment opportunities, and in order to continue to qualify to receive program funding.<—Message to the feds, it's time to threaten to DEFUND FAILED AGENCIES s.a. the SBSD if they can't clean-up their act!
Re: Redlands the apparent illegal conduct and activities by former Redlands HR Director Deborah Scott-Leistra (Hey Mikey, u remember DWI-DSL, wasn't she one of Suzanne's friends from ONT?) I hereby object to the continuation of City contracting with private Labor Attorney Steven Filarsky of Filarsky & Watt LLP, and call for the City Council’s immediate termination of his services.
Additionally, and because of the improper administration of the City’s employee relations program and the City’s personnel rules and regulations, I hereby call for the termination of the contract services of Best, Best and Krieger (BB&K) as the City’s Special Council, and for termination of the Agreement for Special Services with Liebert Cassidy Whitmore for cause.
Denny loosen up the plastic Viking hat, take more Prozac. Go meet Red at Denny’s in Apple Valley share a Prozac malt. Kiss and make up K. Report back here Captain ASAP.
I know for a fact that the Sheriff is listed in all lawsuits filed on SBSD.
But this lawsuit is different. He is listed personally and was involved in a cover up per the court document. How would the plaintiffs know to name the male white as the sheriffs attorney. Why would the sheriff come out to this mess? To protect a friend that would’ve went to jail if he wasn’t McMahons friend. This is another big mess for McMahon and just like the other lawsuits and mishaps McMahon is involved with shows who he really is.
You thought Hoops was evil. This guy is just getting started.
I could care less what the other blog says. That lady has a screw lose and appears to have been bought and paid for.
The facts are in the pages of the court documents and other testimony.
If this proves to be true the Supervisors have to release this piece of shit. It is incredible that McMahon thinks he can get away with this.
McMahon is a piece of work. You know I checked out McMahons website. The POLITICAL one. He is wearing his uniform in a lot of pictures on this site. Now we know buy lots of stuff he does he thinks he can break the law. What does California GOVERNMENT CODE say about this.
3206. No officer or employee of a local agency shall participate in political activities of any kind while in uniform.
I guess this doesn’t mean McMahon. You see just like him driving a vehicle with out of state license plates. He really proves he thinks he is above the law.
Lets hope the FBI shows gets involved in a civil rights charge on this POS.
32 you are dumb. He isn’t participating in political activities by a photo showing him in uniform. As a part of his job, he routinely wears a uniform. Now if a picture of him in uniform shows up on his political website, that’s quite a stretch to say he is actively engaged in political excercises while in uniform. Get a clue idiot.
I bet McMahon wasn’t in uniform at Del Taco.
Over at the other blog they are using that old excuse that someone saw McMahon’s name on the card and got it all wrong. Remember when old Hoops went where he didn’t belong and it was said someone misread the card? Well, they didn’t misread it then so I wouldn’t be so quick to make that assumption now. Not that any of it matters to James Mills, he just disappears when the proof comes out.
Went to McMahon’s political site. Yes he is in uniform.
Hey Mills you poop eater. If McMahon is in uniform on his political website it’s a violation. But he is above the law right.
Ken I think you worked at West Valley where are the fences? I know that there is one surrounding the entire complex but I do not know of any inside of the facility. And I am sorry but I am finding it hard to believe that these inmates were taken on a field trip outside of the facility to be tazed.
Let me think on that one. Doors on cell block lead to fenced area? Rec yard gates lead to fenced area?
Lol on the field trips.
Some of the units have fenced in rec yards for “high power” inmates. It’s basically a fenced in cage inside the rec yard. So those could be what they are referring to
@42 ABSOLUTELY nothing became of it.
Hey Jim when are you going to get one of these things?
717 total views, 23 views today
Can you manually push a button and hike the numbers?
Did I miss the story Ken, or is it going to go public what McMahon and Jiles tried to do to Schrader?
C’mon Ken, back in the day you’d have hooked “Tameca” and “Nashay” in a heartbeat. Now they’re model citizens? Please bring the old Kenny back, the proactive deputy sheriff taking turds to jail. I liked him a lot better.
Kenny used to smack his share of people around just for lipping off. Lord knows he’s used his share of racial slurs in “private” conversations.
Is the story that they should have been arrested or that the 2 off duty deputies started a fight, and if true, used racial slurs during the assault, which makes it a felony hate crime, and that SBSD covered it up?
I thought it was the latter, but maybe I missed something
Do I believe that they we’re all polite and proper, not likely, but writes a lawsuit saying they we’re acting “ghetto” and doing the hand waive in their face? Either way after you read thru the smoking mirrors there are some head scratching things that went on that don’t jive….
Unlike Mr Mills who never admits to anything wrong, I can see both sides of the argument and admit to each sides shortcomings……
U mean “smoke AND mirrors?”
@45 don’t you think you should be asking those deputies at the scene of the incident why they didn’t arrest anyone?
I think I know why they didn’t because McMahon, Singley and the unidentified deputy would be called to the witness stand, and of course the video tape would have to be played to support the charges.
Ask them don’t ask me I didn’t file the lawsuit. Or should you be asking McMahon? I notice he is crickets. A real man would deny IMMEDIATELY an outrageous, frivolous racist based lawsuit such as anonymous cheerleaders would have everyone believe.
McMahon should be outraged at these accusations if untrue. CRICKETS. I say that because it took McMahon less than 1 HOUR to break loose with a press release on the FBI investigation after it was FIRST released right here.
This lawsuit is against McMahon personally. HUGE issue if true. NOTHING stopping McMahon from calling BS other than the truth or FEAR.
#46 put your name to it then rattle off whatever you got. Or your not sure you can back that up? Be like your buddy Casey Jiles.
Blasé yeah when I get the official paperwork on the issue it will be posted up. Not sure what all we can get.
These girls in this case, the named plaintiffs have no criminal record other than some tickets. At least around here.
Since we are to believe McMahon and the FBI are working close on the jail investigation, and the FBI agents are from the civil rights unit, McMahon should ask them as a favor to investigate this Del Taco incident?
The FBI could easily do that rather quickly. An UNFOUNDED/EXONERATED stamp from the Feds would be great.
The lawyer who filed this suit would suffer greatly with the State BAR for his outrageous actions.
43 Ken good to know. I figured Jiles was a sneak. He use to ride Hoops raw. Why would they or should I say Gilbert and Jiles go after Schrader? She writes some stuff on her blog that will get her in some legal twist. Jiles should be reported for playing politics on duty. I hear he uses county computers all the time. Maybe someone should call his boss. I guess if you think you are going to loose. You will do desperate things.
yes 49, thx
#52 call his boss? that’s funny…… McMahon sent this bozo out to due the dirty deed……..
Blase’ if McMahon is playing this game sending people out trying to get Schrader in trouble, he must be afraid.
#55, that’s a good point
Didn’t Kenneth Holtz shoot and kill an Hispanic bicyclist? And now he’s condemning alleged acts of alleged sheriff’s employees? What am I missing here? Seems like he lacks credibility to evaluate ANY use of force. BTW, he ought to be careful of what he posts and comments he provokes; e.g., racial slurs. There is no statute of limitations on murder.
It might be a lot more wise to wait until dust settles before reaching conclusions.
It appears as though some posters have dogs in this fight. It appears as though some posters what there to be wheat and not chaff on the mill floor.
Lol Desert Heat not putting your name behind your comments is all about credibility dummy. Or outright fear. I bet a little of both. Pretty dumb statement since the District Attorney and SBSD ruled my actions across the board justified. NO LAWSUIT in my shooting, NO additional training needed.
Go find the DA’s review of that shooting. Post it up for all to see. An asshole like you will be angry and the compliments the DA noted in that shooting.
So dummy with your comments you would be suggesting both the DA and SBSD were inept? Racial slurs is that a compelling theory of yours? No statue of limitations on murder of course.
I bet your the man behind the keyboard. Why don’t you get busy making a REAL case based on your comments I’ll be right here waiting. It will be refreshing to see someone like yourself back up your mouth and brain.
The dust clearedon that issue in 1994.
Unlike your boy John McMahon who has racked up over a half dozen serious issues in 16 months in office I can’t begin to compete with his issues.
I’d say the guy is in the midst of a sand storm. The best he has is you to fend for him.
But you anonymous warriors keep after it.
Ken way to go.
DH let’s hope the FBI doesn’t decide to stick their nose in some of the recent shootings and deaths in the last 5 years or so. 5 year statue of limitations on civil rights violations.
NO statue of limitations on RICO issues. Uh the POST scandal comes to mind.
The Kenneth Munoz shooting out of Yucaipa could be a real bitch for McMahon and Ramos. The one SBSD said the guy took away the Deputy’s gun and fired a shot promoting others to shoot Munoz 12 times. An eye witness and one deputy’s tape recording CONTRADICTS that lie SBSD told the public. We HAVE the court documents on that.
Now I lost count of all the other issues in the last couple of years.
The dust on Johnny Mac hasn’t settled in 16 months.
Holtz,
You are infamous for alleging malfeasance/nonfeasance/misfeasance as endemic to the sheriff’s & DA’s offices. Now you’re asserting that none was the case in your shooting of an unarmed kid. Duplicity will compromise your integrity. So what is it? Are the sheriff and DA possessive of competence & integrity or not?
Are you alleging that the sheriff & DA found you be have been factually innocent? Or are you alleging that at the time that you killed that unarmed kid that neither the sheriff nor the DA had inculpating evidence? Being the sharp enforcer of law that you claim you once were, you ought to know that criminal investigations can be reopened were new evidence to surface.
Holtz, you’re a bitter gadfly who was fired for just cause. At every process, your firing was upheld. You’re hellbent on trying to dupe the naive of merit to your spurious allegations. You have no clue of what happened at Del Taco. Before you condemn others’ actions, it might be a better idea to wait until the investigation has been completed.
Holtz, you have zero credibility. You might gain modicum of it were you to refute facts as opposed to threatening others with bodily injuries and resorting to unwarranted personal attacks.
@6 3 you sound like that fat guy at apple valley gun club, Jon Marhoefer. Same crap you tried to spread at a club meeting as I recall.
Holtz likes to threaten people. He has threatened me multiple times because he doesn’t agree with me. That just makes me really wonder how many people he may have violated when he wore a badge. He doesn’t agree with me here and wants to beat me down. I wonder what he did when someone challenged him while he was working? I have found that a man’s character doesn’t change over time. This tells me exactly what type of character the almighty Kenny holtz possesses. He is a putz. He intimidates and threatens and I’m certain that these same qualities were possessed while wearing the badge. Sad.
@Anonymous,
Holtz’s threatening bodily harm could be the catalyst that reopens the investigation of his killing an unarmed kid.
Holtz seems to vacillate between marginally lucid and outright dangerous.
Nameless victims whining. #64 is Mr. Mills. Marhoefer that sounds exactly like one of your typical rants. You still making child support payments on that kid you fathered in the back of your narcotics unit? Your head is so far up McMahons rear end trying to get promoted to chief the world is laughing. SBSD is the last group that should be talking about threats and violence.
@65 here is a thought. Why don’t you make all your comments and theories HAPPEN?
Will the crime report list anonymous bloggers 1-20 as victims?
If you are Captain Jon Marhoefer let me laugh out loud again. It sure makes sense based on your MO from the gun club incident. Right out of the gate you bring up my shooting to set the tone with your little minions.
Handle your business Marhoefer. See if you can get your theory handled in a timely manner and keep the investigation under $25 million, unlike your jail project.
I’ll be standing by.
#68 When I see Marhoefer wheezing and burping while following McMahon I have to laugh. I never worked for him. But he is probably the worst supervisor right behind McMahon at SBSD.
Hey Marhoefer since you get rid of members of the gun club who support Schrader, what are your thoughts on out right bullying of business owners or organization heads voting for anyone but your boy? Like the black panthers did back east standing in front of public polls demanding people tell them who they are voting for.
Where did you go Marhoefer? Disappear like you did when Schrader showed up to the gun club to speak with members?
Or just decided to be quiet upon my arrival at the club after exposing your little corrupt operation there? But waited until you could organize your minions for back up then play bad ass.
Nice try on trying to get me to lose my cool that night by launching that salacious crap you compiled. Didn’t work? Now you want to try it again.
This isn’t your jail or your gun club where you can demand compliance or suffer.
Now let’s play.
Marhoefer is a puss, has always been a puss, and the only way he can lead is by intimidation and forced compliance. He’s a tyrant because he has no respect, has earned no respect, and will forever be a spineless turd. he along with people like Marnati, Tarangle, Stark, Cochrin, and the like pray every night that Schrader doesn’t win because they value their career over the department. Guarantee when Schrader wins MASS preemptive retirements will happen pre-termination.
It’s amazing to me that so many cheerleaders for McMahon never want to dicuss their opinion on deputies under his watch have been convicted of crimes, attempted to commit crimes, have criminal convictions, others even served jail time and probation, yet they are still employed…… They don’t see a problem with that? Yet they want to attack someone over a shooting that happened years ago whereas every reviewing agency cleared it as “justified”…. That’s they best they got? Thats pretty flipping weak and pathetic not to mention a total fable…..
Maybe Marhoefer and McMahon better know this before they continue down a certain path. Seems Marhoefer committed a felony when he ousted that member for supporting Schrader.
From the California Election Code.
18540. (a) Every person who makes use of or threatens to make use
of any force, violence, or tactic of coercion or intimidation, to
induce or compel any other person to vote or refrain from voting at
any election or to vote or refrain from voting for any particular
person or measure at any election, or because any person voted or
refrained from voting at any election or voted or refrained from
voting for any particular person or measure at any election is guilty
of a felony punishable by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h)
of Section 1170 of the Penal Code for 16 months or two or three
years.
(b) Every person who hires or arranges for any other person to
make use of or threaten to make use of any force, violence, or tactic
of coercion or intimidation, to induce or compel any other person to
vote or refrain from voting at any election or to vote or refrain
from voting for any particular person or measure at any election, or
because any person voted or refrained from voting at any election or
voted or refrained from voting for any particular person or measure
at any election is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment
pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 of the Penal Code for 16
months or two or three years.
So Captain Jon, I could be wrong but the statue of limitation on this crime is 3 years. Less than a year since you booted that member. And since your working on McMahons campaign not good. Better yet Schrader had announced he was running for Sheriff before he came to the club.
And more than a few people heard your remarks and dislike that Schrader was coming to the club.
Jiles bogus complaint against Schrader and this, TWO STRIKES.
Now you big boys come get me.
Your my hero Ken, thank you for all you are and do.I’m proud to call you friend.
You must be laughing Kenneth Holtz. You know if they can’t combat the message than they get the messenger. There are some people here clearly unhinging on the message which means there is meat to it. Most folks see that and its funny that those folks don’t see that they are the ones that look guilty of something.
They never use their names, cowardly men they are! Lol
I am laughing. I didn’t write the freakin lawsuit.
Ken, Rose and Travis: McMahon shakes in his big boy cowboy boots at the mention of any of your names. His time is now and he can’t shake that Damn Schrader. Even if McMahon lies and pulls BS. He is just inept when it comes to Schrader. Gitty Up Yeeee Haaaw…Cowboy my azz. John McMahon is a person who rides a horse. No cowboy and never John Wayne.
I am no threat just someone who can see the BS for what it is, I will fight corruption no matter the cost to me, What message I send to my kid, friends and family is stand up for what it is right and I live by this! If you don’t fight for something then you die for nothing. So they can have me kicked out of a place and threaten me but I am not afraid of them, I have experienced first hand what they do. I will do what I have to for truth and justice is what we all need. Paul Schrader is the hope and Sheriff we need. I am not afraid and I will say it again, so you can read this, I am not going to ever allow you to intimidate me as you have others. I hope the FBI looks into all of you, for you lie cheat, steal,harass,intimidate,and do very bad things in the name of POWER and will destroy and hurt others to keep your power you have, Well I am one of the messengers and you think are above the law. I will do whatever is right and true to make sure you guys don’t continue your rein of terror on others, You know who you are, SO HELP ME GOD! BTW I use my name I am not a coward.
In case you minions are still awake! read up.
From the California State Election Code.
VOTER intimidation is a FELONY.
18540. (a) Every person who makes use of or threatens to make use
of any force, violence, or tactic of coercion or intimidation, to
induce or compel any other person to vote or refrain from voting at
any election or to vote or refrain from voting for any particular
person or measure at any election, or because any person voted or
refrained from voting at any election or voted or refrained from
voting for any particular person or measure at any election is guilty
of a felony punishable by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h)
of Section 1170 of the Penal Code for 16 months or two or three
years.
(b) Every person who hires or arranges for any other person to
make use of or threaten to make use of any force, violence, or tactic
of coercion or intimidation, to induce or compel any other person to
vote or refrain from voting at any election or to vote or refrain
from voting for any particular person or measure at any election, or
because any person voted or refrained from voting at any election or
voted or refrained from voting for any particular person or measure
at any election is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment
pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 of the Penal Code for 16
months or two or three years.
#81, that was classic
#83
Rose you know what is typical of the section you cited, like many others, they are sections that exist, that clearly are never enforced, UNLESS they selectively choose too.
It’s very frustrating. Cynthia O’Neil is a prime example. The BAR is the only hope of justice, because the corrupt county won’t sacrifice their own unless they have no other choice. Then they eat their own, that’s how cowards operate……..
Thanks for your efforts Rose and seeing b.s. for what it is, keep it up!!!
Thanks Blase 🙂 You too!
I think rose, blase, and Kenneth need to have a threesome.
Anonymous! Anonymous! Another coward, hide behind the pc, wish you’d say who you are! That’s right your scared of Mcsham. I’m not!
Marhoefer’s comments are typical of his logic that he enforces upon the young Deputies that have to work for him. Then those supervisors who have to go along to get along in order to go somewhere else or get to retirement.
So we have one idiot who creates misery for many and they call that LEADERSHIP.
He says the guy I shot was a kid. 30 years old isnt a kid. He says he was homeless. Nope had a place with a girlfriend and a newborn. He also fails to tell everyone the guy shot and stabbed a man just a couple days before I encounter him after him and his friend stole a 12 pack of beer.
Marhoefer failed to tell others the guy had .14% blood alcohol and methamphetamine in his system at the time. Unarmed? He was swinging a BMX bike at me and did so twice on the third attempt I shot him once, and stopped the threat. That was after a boxing match.
But if you would like to show me how you would handle that and not get hit in the head step up brave boys.
This is the crap Marhoefer and James Mills likes to throw around to play with the messenger. Then whine when they get threatened or challenge. Go tell MIke Ramos wimpy boys.
Same salacious crap that many supervisor spread among themselves, and when challenged on the gossip in a formal setting come up short on facts, look like idiots then get pissed you outed them.
Just look how stupid McMahon looks in the POST scandal with Angela Gray? Charges her with issues out of that, she submits a witness list of who she is going to call and charges DROPPED.
And some of you think McMahon is a smart dude? I bet money this Del Taco lawsuit has lots of meat to it.
Find your manhood Marhoefer.
Oh Kenny, I only question your temper. It has been seen here with your threats when someone simply doesn’t agree with you. Now put yourself in a position when you have a gun and some dude swings a bike at you and what do you do? You shoot and kill him. I’ve been assaulted my far more than a bicycle and never killed that person. I can’t help but think that even if he hit you with the bike, are you that much of a wimp that it would have imcopacitated you? Maybe. Anyways, yes it was ruled a good shoot. Maybe if you had a calmer temperament and rational thinking process it could have been handled differently. Just sayin. Character speaks volumes.
Rose just how close are you to Mr. Holtz. With your posts it seems that maybe your are a little closer than most know or wish to be.
Really James? Please tell us a good war story on how you handled business.
I am sure our 5 readers would love to hear a real life adventure from Joe Henry’s days of crime fighting.
We never saw it at Rancho station, but in fairness that doesn’t cover your entire time.
Do tell.
Come on James we only question your sobriety based on several years of your no frills comments. Give us a story. You said it now back it up. McMahon is depending on you. Marhoefer got slapped down.
Marhoefer’s CCW class another big fat joke like him. McMahon’s CCW class too. Money and more money on county time?
Rose, Ken and I should have a threesome? I thought that’s what we were doing, a threesome on corruption…..LoL
#96 now you have Henry and Marhoefer’s attention. 2 sickos.
Blase,
You’ve posted a lot about corruption. But I have yet to read your proof of it.
Were another candidate to win the upcoming sheriff election, I bet that the same malcontents would be cackling about the same stuff.
You must be new #98, that’s ok, do some searches you will find plenty.
As far as your comment in 99, if a new Sheriff candidate is elected that turns out to be a POS corrupt one like McMahon is, you bet your a$$ I’ll post it too. I don’t simply pick out people without reason. I also don’t post unless I have proof in my hand. I don’t believe in simply posting to beat someone up without having proof, it takes one’s credit away.
“I’ll I have in this world is my balls and my word, and I don’t break them for nobody”
Anything else?
Happy Easter by the way
Oops, I’ll should be All……LoL
Everyone knows what movie that’s from I hope
We’ll desert heat size 8 shoe Jon Marhoefer we know your praying john boy wins.
#90
James mills on April 20th, 2014 9:36 am
Oh Kenny, I only question your temper. It has been seen here with your threats when someone simply doesn’t agree with you
#92
Kenneth Holtz on April 20th, 2014 9:57 am
Really James? Please tell us a good war story on how you handled business.
I am sure our 5 readers would love to hear a real life adventure from Joe Henry’s days of crime fighting.
We never saw it at Rancho station, but in fairness that doesn’t cover your entire time.
Do tell.
>>> DO TELL? OKAY, BUT I’LL LET ** A REAL LIFE** SECOND GRADER EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.
Being that # 92 is quick to POINT HIS FINGER at every move, every sneeze, every breath of anyone who disagrees with him, or he dislikes, maybe someone with his own 2nd grade mentality could enlighten him about real life:
WHY PICK ON ME
Marvin was a boy who picked his nose
And was picked on.
He thought 50 years he would be president
Then he couldent
Because he picked his nose
The the teacher’s comments said
“Marivin doesn’t play well with others.
The other children are offended
by his unsanitary habits and
anti-social behavior.
He needs to learn to use tissue.”
One day he did a survey
Question. It was have you picked your nose?
99% yes, 1% no.
— By A 2nd grader, 1996
>>>> I HIGHLY DOUBT #92 IS SO PURE AND PERFECT THAT HE **NEVER** PICKED HIS NOSE …… AND FALLS UNDER THAT 1%!
Denny your just like ET Snell when you post. Doesn’t he take meds to?
I am still trying to figure out the point of #103’s post #104, your quicker than I
@68 Desert Heat. Proof of corruption, are contained in this sites very archives. More proof to support comments on the very issue than yours, that’s for sure. If these people are malcontents then you must be the very happy but corrupt police administrator.
Someone struck a nerve based on recent events.
You must be Marhoefer, your not very bright.
We know some are scared all they do is talk. We know McMahon is scared, so scared he HIMSELF shows up at a business demanding to know why the business owner has a Schrader banner up and not his. A developing story indeed.
It’s game on.
@107,
Have you turned your proof over to the grand jury? The FBI? The DA? The AG?
If you have proof of alleged corruption, why don’t investigative agencies have it?
Why would you suppose that news agencies haven’t investigated alleged corruption within the sheriff’s department?
110 they are doing it now you fat blob of Niki poop.
Now Jon Marhoefer why would you ask a question like that when you already no know the answer ? Trying to impress others with your in the know much like my shooting.
How is that pepper spray incident working out for you? I’d be worried some of your employees don’t spill the beans on your long standing operational issues.
How’s that friend of yours doing that just got busted by the ATF over on Stoddard Wells in AV? I hear you guys were close.
Rose aka high desert ho, please don’t laugh at me. In due time, you will say mills had it right. Election is fast approaching. After that there will be a sentencing hearing at some point for the colony boyz. And yes you along with Mr. Holtz will be the ones getting laughed at. You heard it here first.
Anonymous now how can Rose clean my clock when you can not even clean it. Get serious loser. Is that all you knuckle heads think about here is challenging everyone with a different point of view to a fight? You also must have been terminated for some good reason. Have a nice day.
Kurt you mean like your friends try and do with employees at SBSD? A model program for screwing with people to get them to go off. Now tell us SBSD employees don’t taze people or beat them ever for excessive lip service under far less conditions than mentioned here. I bet your someone who escaped going to prison.
#116. Me bet big chief McMahon scared of Barstow attorney who wrote lawsuit. Big chief McMahon have little warrior speak for him. Big chief McMahon hide in tee-pee behind squaw while little warriors fight for chief. Big chief McMahon step in buffalo shit, not know what to do. Big chief McMahon speak with fork tongue. Big chief McMahon meet with chief James Ramos for good smoke and pow wow. Medicine man Mike Ramos see evil spirits coming not know what to do.
High Desert Gal, et al.,
If you want an accurate assessment of Schrader’s position vis-a-vis McMahon, take a look at what the incumbent is doing. Since McMahon isn’t doing a whole lot of campaigning, it’s a good bet that he knows he’s got it in the bag.
LMAO DH. He has you and others doing the heavy lifting and all he has to do is dangle a carrot to get stuff done. You broke a sweat yet?
If your statement was remotely correct Sheriff McMahon and Captain Tony Onadero would not have felt the need to go to the Red Hill Cafe in Rancho Cucamonga and get the owner to take down his Paul Schrader sign and put McMahons up.
Then Paul Chabot coming in behind McMahon and getting his put up. Now I don’t know what Chabot did or said but after McMahon left the owner felt very intimidated. I am trying to find out if they were in uniform.
I am sure McMahon just happened to be in the neighborhood.
What funnier yet the owner of the cafe put his sign up early and it was posted on Facebook so lots of folks saw it admin real life. BUT just a few days later Rancho code enforcement is telling the owner to take it down it’s up to early.
Isn’t but a couple days it’s up legally her come McMahon and Onadero. This happened last Saturday.
Now I won’t mention those who have endorsed Schrader and got a phone call from John McMahon asking why.
Nice try at another tail of BS. Your batting about ZERO Jon. I know your working hard for that star.
No one kicking butt and taking names need call anyone who endorsed another candidate or has the opponents sign up on their business.
You better remember Marhoefer there are plenty of people who wear tan and green who are talking. You should have figured that out when the FBI showed up. DUH!!!!
Desert Heat or should I say Fat Boy Marhoefer. McMahon is sooo afarid he follows Schrader with command staff any place Schrader speaks. McMahon follows Schrader on Facebook and twitter. Smart? Scared? McMahon is in a whirlwind and is losing ground. His mouth is getting him in trouble. Lots of staff at SBSD look at John as an appointed Hoops. They are waiting for him to leave. Not all 3200 employees want him or like him. About 550 out of that group support him. How about that Jon and Niki? Niki is very inept too. What’s up fatty?
Sounds like Schrader had an endorsement at the cafe but when the owner was told how Schrader is just a deputy with no management experience and some of his unscrupulous alleged acts he committed with multiple personalities on the internet, the cafe entrepreneur came to his senses and changed his mind. Of course Kenny and the like call it intimidation. Heaven knows it wasn’t a smart guy who made his own choice based on available information. Let’s call it intimidation. Haha. You people have lost it. You give nobody credit. This guy has run a successful business for years but isn’t smart enough to come to a rational decision? Not when it doesn’t work in your favor! Give it up. Schrader has no chance. You heard it here first.
Wow James another compelling commentary. To bad you didn’t interview the guy. Somebody did. That’s why we know.
Nice try Kenneth. Saying someone interviewed him and he was intimidated is hardly a smoking gun. Sounds like the man heard all the facts and made his new choice for the better candidate. People have the right to change their mind and just because they did and you don’t like the result, you concoct quite a story. Nice try.
127 sounds like McMahon is desperate. Sending captains in to get a sign up. That is very desperate. Mills talk to the owner and report back boy.
Holtz,
Can you provide proof of the The Red Hill Cafe incident? How do you know anyone intimidated the owner?
Proof to you?? To someone hiding behind a screen name? You wouldn’t know what proof was if it slapped you in the forehead. You showed that when you made your debut right here. Get off your butt and YOU go find it.
I know more than you. That’s obvious, thanks to your comments or lack there of.
Why aren’t you lashing out at all the other anon posters that hide behind screen names when they fit your agenda?
Double standard?
Holtz,
I guess your response in no. 131 an admission that you have no proof.
You’re credibility is sinking and taking on water.
Do you really think Schrader has a chance? Or are all of your eggs in the hope & prayer basket?
LMAO you wish that were the case Jon boy. We can compare personnel files side by side any day on credibility. Your forgetting no one jumps for you outside your jail or gun club. That’s a bitch in itself.
Marhoefer what are you doing blogging on county time? You should be selling guns and ammo. You following around FBI investigators impressing them with your administrative and investigative skills? Free lessons for the agents at the gun club on advanced swat tactics? Miki providing training for the agents wife’s?
This blog is full of fucking idiots.
#137 now let’s be careful. That is not nice. Did someone make you mad?
Nope not mad. Just pointing out facts. Stupid should hurt!
No idiot I’m talking about you. Here’s some advice. Between you and your uncle Kenny you both are killing any agenda you actually may have had. Keep it up idiots. Great entertainment!
Oh wait…I didn’t use my name. Kenny don’t yell at me!! You sure don’t care when your minions don’t use theirs!!
I will say hi right after I say hi to Judy Bell. Yummy.
141 might be one of the John Does 1-100 in the Del Taco incident. He seems to add credibility to the allegations.
The only taco I eat is named Judy
You can lead a jackass to water but….McMahon will never learn.
Just Asking!
New to posting to IP.com and wondering why there are so many Anonymous’s posting here! No doubt that any one would bring a Nubie up to speed, nevertheless there seems to be several different personalities and apparently recognizable by content of the message posted! Looks like James mills, Kenneth Holtz , Blase’ and Rose (Figured out aka HD Girl) are real people!
Looks like some serious allegations being made and replies made by so many that do not want to be known, so have no real credibility! Sounds Interesting should some real facts show up! Any of you Anons have real names? Maybe should Rose file those Election Codes 18540. (a) & (b) we (At least me.) would find out more about what is really going on.
Just Asking?
These ‘plaintiffs’ and their attorney are simply going after those ‘deep pocket$’. Get in line folks, there’s going to be a long wait.
Not for federal court civil litigation goes pretty quick.