By Joe Nelson, The Sun
Posted: 12/20/13, 1:46 PM PST |
SAN BERNARDIN0 >> The California Supreme Court is set to release its opinion on San Bernardino County’s Colonies corruption case at 10 a.m. on Monday, according to the court’s website.
The issue in question: Can an individual accused of giving or offering a bribe also be charged with aiding and abetting the receipt of a bribe?
The high court’s decision will have a major impact on the trajectory of the sweeping county corruption scandal involving the county’s $102 million legal settlement with Rancho Cucamonga developer Jeff Burum’s investor group, Colonies Partners LP, in November 2006.
State and local prosecutors allege the landmark legal settlement was tainted by bribery, extortion and blackmail.
Burum and three former San Bernardino County officials — former county Supervisor Paul Biane, former Assistant Assessor and union president Jim Erwin, and Mark Kirk, former chief of staff for county Supervisor Gary Ovitt, were indicted in May 2011 and charged with multiple felonies including bribery, criminal conspiracy and tax evasion, among other crimes.
But a San Bernardino Superior Court judge dismissed five of the seven felony charges against Burum, including all four bribery counts, three months after the indictment. Judge Brian McCarville also dismissed one felony count of misappropriation of public funds for each of the other three defendants.
McCarville initially ruled that a person accused of giving bribes, as Burum was in the overt acts listed in the indictment, could not also be charged with aiding and abetting the receipt of bribes, for which Burum was charged,
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I can’t even imagine how board those judges must have been sifting through all that crap.
Actually, I think they were more worried about how they were going to screw the DA and the Attorney General on their bogus case? No wonder they are releasing it two days before Christmas….Must be a big FU to Kamala Harris and Mikey (never met a chick small, large, or old I wouldn’t screw) Ramos!
[RED????????? who/what or where are you!!!!!!!]
Anonymous on February 2nd, 2013 12:06 pm
Red,
You amuse me!
Still, you are correct, “no tic tic boom will ever happen to Mike Ramos or any other law enforcement official” because as you’ve noticed, the likes of them fellows are not having public “bombs” dropped on them, and there is no “loud” boom. Most have quietly self destructed with only a passing article, leaving a blur of them in our minds.
Same with Ramos, no loud bomb will be dropped, but we will have the pleasure, I hope, of watching him PUBLICLY unravel and screech:
“I’m melting! Melting! Oh, what a world, what a world!”
@2 LMAO!!!! Can’t wait for Monday. It’s time to get this train rolling.
AntiCorruptionUnit:
If the misconduct you are referring to includes the failure of the prosecution to provide exculpatory evidence to the Grand Jury, I don’t believe the “I didn’t know” excuse will work for Mike Ramos.
There was a recent ruling (involving the City of Irwindale, I believe) where that defense was asserted, and the court held that prosecutors who claimed to not have known SHOULD HAVE known.
Mike Ramos has had nearly four years to bask in the glory and slanted media coverage of “the most appalling corruption case in decades, certainly in the history of San Bernardino County and maybe California itself,” and on Monday he is going to have to actually start proving his case.
I look forward to that, as well as his finally having to disclose how much money the prosecution has cost.
Agreed OoF, very true.
OoF, I will bet better than $12 million on cost of prosecution?
@14. Thank you
#14. Upland even jumped on the bandwagon by providing false information via Ray Wellington and San Antonio Water Co. drainage did they not?
RanchoBusinessOwner:
Don’t forget that the “bribes” were paid several months after the event for which the parties were supposedly “bribed.”
Plus, they were not even paid to the parties, but to Political Action Committees they supposedly “secretly controlled.”
And, and one of the parties was supposedly “bribed” to “influence” the actions of somebody else.
Who else but attorneys funded with unlimited taxpayer money would even consider taking this case?
Opinion by CA Supreme Court just released in last 20 minutes and posted on website. Court of Appeals overturned, 100 years of law out the window.
Winner, Winner, prison dinner, Marry Christmas!
@20. Now what does it all mean after today’s decision by court?
Going the distance with larson, what a plan.
It means Ramos was right and made the right call. Haha to all you haters!!!
James Mills is an ignorant drunk. He sucks after McMahon and Ramos. Neither would piss in his ass if his gutts were on fire.
Haha! Hate to tell you I told you so! Bye bye.
“Going the distance with larson, what a plan.”
YES REPAIRMAN, WE ARE…
PATIENCE, MY DEAR WATSON, PATIENCE!
Anonymous on February 13th, 2013 7:09 pm
Red and Repairman,
One last thing, how else would Mr. Stephen Larson be able to “GO THE DISTANCE” if this is cut short?
In addition, a sudden stop leaves too many spectators at the end of the finish line cheated and left out of witnessing this once in a life time event!
Let’s gather together and cheer Larson on, singing his song…someone turn the music up LOUD!!!!!!!
The Distance
– by Cake
Reluctantly crouched at the starting line,
engines pumping and thumping in time.
The green light flashes, the flags go up.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
They deftly maneuver and muscle for rank,
Fuel burning fast on an empty tank.
Reckless and wild, they pour through the turns.
Their prowess is potent and secretly stern.
As they speed through the finish, the flags go down.
The fans get up and they get out of town.
=== The arena is empty except for ONE MAN,
Still driving and striving as fast as he can.
The sun has gone down and the moon has come up,
And long ago somebody left with the cup.
But he’s driving and striving and hugging the turns…
No trophy, no flowers, no flashbulbs, no wine,
=== He’s haunted by something he cannot define.
Bowel-shaking earthquakes of doubt and remorse,
Assail him, impale him with monster-truck force…
Cause he’s going the distance………….
Anonymous #30
If there was any info or dirty laundry that could have been used against Ramos, it would have been used already. Your threats are hallow.
You and mr. tick tick tick, remind me of a guy that’s getting the hell kicked out of him, when he looks up, and warns his attacker, that if he doesn’t stop, he’s going to jump up and kick some butt himself.
No Mills don’t go. Bore us more you drunk pervert.
I guess some people can’t read. This case is back to the appellant court in Riverside.
Still aways from going to trial.
Sgt Milstar #35
Yea, your probably right, this decision was no big deal.
REPAIRMAN,
1. “If there was any info or dirty laundry that could have been used against Ramos, it would have been used already.”
NO, WE WANT RAMOS *HERE* IN SBC, ON OUR OWN TURF WHERE, AS WIMPY SAID, “Gentlemen, you know the rules – there *are* no rules. This is a fight to the finish.”
2. “Your threats are hallow.”
NO, just prolonged %@*#!!@!!! I was under the impression 2013 was the end of the marathon, I didn’t count on encountering the rugged mountain regions around the bend into 20-FOURTEEN!!%$#!@*!!!
Now what!!!! We’re already tied and dreary, and as you said before, YES, we also look old and fat!!
3. “You and mr. tick tick tick, remind me of a guy that’s getting the hell kicked out of him, when he looks up, and warns his attacker, that if he doesn’t stop, he’s going to jump up and kick some butt himself”
CRAZY OLD SOLDIER
– Johnny Cash (w Ray Charles)
/////
There are so many stories
About how I got out of control
///
I’m like a crazy old soldier
Fighting a war on my own
Just me and the whiskey
And the bottles are ten thousand strong
You’d think I’d give up
As many times as I’ve been hit
But like a crazy old soldier
I just don’t know when to quit
Denny jr on cracked see 37 for further.
This case will get dropped when they run out of money.
BTW….what the hell happened to my color?
Make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal, make a deal.
Save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself, save yourself.
Think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family, think of your family.
Save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation, save them the humiliation.
Wow, looks like the DA peanut gallery has come out in force.
As opposed to the corrupt developer peanut gallery that is perpetually in force on this site.
This is entertainment!!
NO, the jury trial will be entertainment. This is just the wafting scent of a BBQ getting started.
#40 RED, “Also, for those of you that want to make light of this decision just remember what happened to Rex”
YES, REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO REX!! INCOMPETENT AND LAZY LEGAL COUNSEL!!!
James V. Reiss, State Bar #128020, Rancho Cucamonga (February 14, 2013)
Reiss, 51, was disbarred for taking clients’ money by false pretenses, lying to the court and his clients about the status of cases, forging a client’s signature on a settlement agreement, retaining unearned fees, failing to render proper accounting, writing checks against insufficient funds, making client loans without proper written consent, and failing to cooperate with a State Bar investigation.
In aggravation, Reiss’s misconduct involved multiple acts of wrongdoing involving six clients, including a ten-year pattern of deception to cover up the mismanagement of their cases. He also significantly harmed several clients. In addition, Reiss displayed a lack of insight and remorse, making him an ongoing danger to the public. In mitigation, Reiss had no record of prior discipline since being admitted to the State Bar in 1987. The order took effect March 16, 2013
Anon#47…..Yes, that’s the company that these corrupt people keep.Birds of a feather, Look at the corrupt group of former cops turned lawyers that Larson is now representing, all peas in a pod.
The case will never get to a jury trial.
Anon#49…..that’s possible, the defendants may all start making plea agreements. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link and there happens to be four links in this chain. Not all of them are strong and at least one has an ax to grind against two of the others.
ACU#5………well the trains rolling and we haven’t heard much from you.
The train crashed and ACU was inside. He won’t have much to say.
James Mills……There are a few others that are, to steal a phrase from Observer of Facts, conspicuously silent. They all must have been on that crashed train together. It is also possible that they spent Christmas day getting their talking points in order and they are going to have a propaganda blitz tomorrow.
ACU guess what blogs back up and running…James Mills I bet is happy also….
T Bone #54……Sorry for the intrusion, but is it IE politics?
!!!!!RED!!!!!
YOU JUST RETURNED AND ALREADY YOU DISAPPOINTED ME!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER YOUR COMMENT EARLIER-BIRDS OF A FEATHER…..
WHY EVEN BOTHER INQUIRING?????????
Anon #56…….are you referring to the return of Sharon Gilbert’s IE Politics? ACU is more of an IE politics supporter than I am.
I guess the court decision excited and re-invigorated her, so welcome back Sharon.
James Mills is a drunk that never ever has facts. He will lie, cheat and steal. Right Mills?
Red, true, ACU thrives on that stench!
I bet he’s been quietly wallowing in it for days already and is personally responsible for it’s reemergence. Too bad, I had hope for him. ACU’s involvement in this makes me nauseous, I hope he doesn’t start spilling over here again and dragging Sharon Gilbert’s stench.
It is so obvious that they both got together SOLEY to shove SSSCCHHRRADER down our throats… and where else would ACU be welcomed to go and blather long winded exaggerations, half-truths, half lies, flat out lies, crass vulgar and insulting language- and you Red welcome that??????!!!!!!!
RED, I was expecting your intelligent reply to her reemergence would be, “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn”! But it seems you and ACU have more in common than you and me…BIRDS OF A FEATHER…and that sinks my disappointment more- to find you are one of them- oh well, at least I enjoyed your presence for a bit, regardless of whether you were sincere or not.
#60 Denny Nordickhead Junior. I am sure you have had lots of things stuck down your throat you sick piece of shit. Sharon and Ken are so much smart than you.
Stop stalking Schrader. That’s all you talk about. Schrader owns the table and you have been kicked out with your weak little boy girls. SCHRADER WILL BE THE NEXT SHERIFF.
Now denny have your uncle James Mills change your diaper after he and you go trolling for men.
ACU#63…..As I understand it, these are two completely different issues, apples and oranges. Furthermore, just because people of FBI interest got there property back does not mean they are off the hook. Time and political capital is always the determining factor……Now, how’s your law enforcement career been going? or does security guard not count as law enforcement?
Sorry Red NO case as far as the FEDS go. NO pending charges. NADA. Of course you want to
make a money wager I am game.
ACU couldn’t even get hired as a security guard for Walmart. His issues from Sbso has plagued him. He can’t hide from them.
ACU#65……Ya because when the FBI is investigating criminal organizations they are in the habit of keeping you informed right? Hey, go ahead and write it off, I’m sure it was nothing at all, just like the tremors before MT ST Helen erupted were nothing.
Hey James, PINHEAD, if I wanted to hide dummy, I would not be here. Really James, why don’t you tell the readers how I have been plagued by SBSD. Your the only SBSD turd I’ve been plagued with. And we all know how one needs to deal with you.
66 James Mills. At least Ken doesn’t get down on his knees at the crouch if idiots like McMahon. Mills must drink so he can wash away the years of continues sucking. Funny how a person like mills is such a joke and wants people to think he is in the know. Now wash out you nasty mouth drunk.
Red, how would you know who is and isn’t keeping me informed? Put your money where your mouth is, pretty simple. If you keep any cash in your yap you should have a few million stashed.
#64 the long lost Red, you just said it yourself, “Time and political capital is always the determining factor”. So, whether or not it is a crime doesn’t matter. Ignore a crime, manufacture a crime, it’s all about “time and political capital”. So why are you so pious on this one, as if it is somehow a noble prosecution? It’s all about the horse you are betting on and you came back when it looks like it might win?? I think this ruling is a delay for the election. I think maybe Kamala has been giving her special friendly “hugs” to people… Remember, Brown has to save face on this one too. I don’t have a horse in this race, so I can smell the manure…
@69 my issues are I didn’t get down on my knees like Mills and so many others have over the years. No ACU has plagued SBSD. Their little bullshit secrets and non-sense have been exposed.
Much like Attorney Jerry Steering busting SBSD chops for acting like the Nazi’s for the last 29 years. Or attorney Saku Ethir putting McFool in his place.
No intelligent spokehole for SBSD, just James Mills.
I should have added Mrs. Jill Parkinson to that list of busting chops and exposing Mills beloved Rod Hoops for what he is. The list goes on. Excuse me Mrs.P for forgetting you.
Yes Kenny. You are right. A disgraced deputy fired and now named “anti corruption unit”. What a joke! You were and are the corruption. You are the one that was exposed! Have a happy new year. Keep fighting the good fight loser.
ACU as long as Mills stays on his knees at the crouch of McMahon that’s all that drunk knows. He is a very sad ex security guard. He was no cop just a joke. Mills clean you lips off and suk off.
James did Tammy Fay Mills pat you on the butt the last few days? You sure have had more bravado this last week or so. Or did you finally get some of those blue pills from Home Shopping Network. Mix that with a little VO and instant BALLS. NICE!!!!
Let me know when your ready to defend SBSD like a man their little man, I’ll be happy to endure a jury trial and laugh as Ramos tries to make you a victim.
ACU#70…………Very simple, I can tell what you know by your place on the totem pole. As for money and betting, I would love to as my confidence to the outcome is cemented. However, as you have so often pointed out, I do not want my ID exposed. If that makes me a coward in your book then so be it. Not that I work for or know anybody of any importance, but it is the prudent thing to do at this time.
Anon#71……….But you are wrong! you absolutely have a horse in this race. You do pay taxes here in this county do you not? Those were tax dollars that were bilked out of tax payer coffers. There is no “on the fence” here. Many try to down play the State supreme court ruling and the case as a whole,but make no mistake, ground breaking precedent will be established and a whole culture or aspect of corruption that has existed for decades up and down the state is going to be done away with. Most of you are missing the bigger picture here because you are focusing on Tea party issues. That is why I made the political statement you alluded to in your comment, not that I feel it is right, but that’s just the way it is going to be and You all must admit, the people here on this blog have not had much luck calling races lately. The reason for that is that the ideology of this site is out of sync with the greater populace of the state and country as a whole. The worst thing that anyone reading this can do is to, in stubborn fashion, continue to travel in the wrong direction, especially after being told you are going the wrong way.
ACU#80…….millions above and beyond the $102million, but as I have said before, when your house has a serious structural problem due to termites eating away at it, you wind up having to pay a heavy price because of ones years of negligence and neglect. That is what SBC is like right now, the years of neglect have caught up to us and this issue now needs to be adressed before the house collapses.
My secret sources tell me that the total legal fees to the taxpayer’s will be $102,000,001.
And when it is all over and done with we will still be out the $102 Million. But the Attorneys will be $102,000,001 richer.
SGT Milstar#83………….It looks like you are higher up the totem pole then both ACU and myself. You hit the nail on the head about the lawyers winning in the end.
I put away nothing Red. Your a puss, so ride in the back seat of the car. It’s over when the jury says so. Not your liberal ass.
Acu#85…….you are one confused and disgruntled person. BTW, guess what was happening while my liberal ass was riding in the back seat? 6 conservative asses and 1 liberal ass this past Monday were, to steal an expression from Gary Ovitt, giving the defendants a spanking.HA HA HA
Come on ACU, let’s stop fighting and be friends. What do you say?
Ok Red, I apologize.
ACU#86……Those are interesting figures and only lend support to my argument that we need to see this case to the bitter end. The only reason that things have gotten so drastically out of hand is because of public neglect. Now that more individuals are paying attention it becomes more understandable that we must endure these costs in order to cleanse our county house.
ACU#88……………..wow, that was easy, I apologize too.
#78 Red Anon,
1. I am not wrong, I absolutely do not have a horse in this race. I don’t live in this county. My only contact with this county now is to drive through it on my way to Vegas. The county I live in is no better, it’s power players play SBC power players like a fiddle. I am here because my family and I were screwed over by political players in this county, and I stay around to see if Karma will have it’s day at some point. Plus, I like to add to the dialogue from my own experiences if I see some relevance in the topic.
2. I am not a member of the Tea Party. I used to declare myself a member of a political party. Which one is irrelevant since they lost me. During my situation I worked with both sides of the political fence. Because of my experience I now believe they play the public’s party loyalties all the way to the bank. They get elected and then they all watch each others backs and close ranks against public scrutiny. That is until someone needs a certain outcome, and someone with power needs to feed someone else to the sharks. Everyone, regardless of party, goes along so they aren’t fed to the sharks at a later date. Politics is a big dirty cesspool, so if you choose to swim in it and then get fed, you should have known where you were swimming. Both sides do it.
3. I have been watching this as an outsider, but have dealt with some of the players(again, from BOTH PARTIES). I smell a big fat rat. You state that “ground breaking precedent will be established and a whole culture or aspect of corruption that has existed for decades up and down the state is going to be done away with”. I don’t agree. Someone fed someone to the sharks, someone got a hug from Kamala, and at the end of the day it will be business as usual.
#73 ACU, Thank you for including me, not because I want recognition but because what was done to Duane was so bad I think others should know exactly what the executive staff at the SBC Sheriff’s Department is capable of doing to one of their own. McMahon was after all recommended by Rod Hoops and Cusimano defended Hoops’ behavior to Joe Nelson of the Sun, so one can’t assume that kind of behavior left when Hoops did. James Mills still hasn’t addressed this one, I don’t suppose he ever will. As always, I will always be grateful for your help in that. (And I do have to admit, I enjoyed the “busting chops” part of the comment, I know it would make my husband smile).
Mrs. Parkinson,
Please don’t align yourself or feel snug with ACU. This is a man that your husband would not have “smiled” at anything he said or did. He was corrupt as they come and fired for that. It really does a disservice to associate yourself with him. And I know you feel wronged by the tragic accident and the way management dealt with the situation, but to correlate that to widespread corruption is a lengthy stretch. It was a tragic accident by all involved. No crime, no intent. Don’t make yourself snug with a liar and discraced former deputy.
James why don’t you tell everyone about all the corrupt acts I did? More general statements like everything else you talk about. Of course it would be wishful thinking for you to say that to my face, then get your ass kicked.
Since I can’t get the second wish, supply everyone with the specifics of my corrupt acts.
SPECIFICS Joe, you know details, like how you and 4 others Sergeants covered up Wimberley’s multiple rape charges?
Go get one of those blue pills, take a shot of VO and get busy with the FACTS.
Kenny,
I will not divulge information from your personnel file. You are not going to lead me down that road. The simple fact is many others have outlined your escapades as deputy. A reader need only look if he/she wants to be informed about your corruption. And go ahead and make your little threats. You are tough. Wasn’t that one of your problems in the past?
You opened your mouth Joe. What’s wrong with dumb shits like you Henry, is you pick the freaking fights with people or employees with the bullshit you display around here,and when you were on the job. And you think you can do it with impunity.
You have already subjected your self to civil action fool by your long standing UNSUPPORTED comments not only about me, but Travis Bauer and anyone else who has called BS on the corruption.
And since SBSD has beaten more that it’s share of people’s asses over the years, covered up by shitheads like you, who are you to talk smack about threats and violence?
So don’t hide behind a personnel file, you should have a ton of PERSONAL observations by the way you talk.
Call people corrupt, a murderer, and all kinds of other vile shit and not give one FACT to support it, then you WHINE about being threatened?
Call 911 Joe Henry WHINE to them. Now show us how much power or JUICE you got.
Mrs. Duane Parkison, look at what Mills said it was a tragic accident by all involved. No crime, no intent. Why was Hoops so involved?
Anything Mills says is a lie. Never trust him. He was shown the door at SBSD. Even though he is a kiss ass, he is a drunk/punk.
Kenny is 10 times the man Mills is. Keep up the good fight.
James Mills, nice to have you address me, it would be better still for you to tell me why what they did was not corrupt?
1) It was not a “tragic accident”. It was a completely avoidable collision and the driver was found at fault and charges of Misd. Vehicular Manslaughter were recommended. There is reason to believe the “lunch” was a factor that prevented the DA from charging her those recommended charges.
2) The way “management” chose to deal with the situation was to take the woman being investigated out to lunch during the investigation and give her details of the investigation that she then used to answer questions about her behavior that day. Information they obtained by asking the investigating agency. How as a member of law enforcement can you defend that behavior?? According the an Irvine Councilman, the IPD will now not share information with other agencies again. One bad apple ruined that for others was the gist of her statement to me.
3) The Sheriff took her to lunch. So did a Deputy Chief. Another Deputy Chief excused the behavior to the press. Multiple people went to visit her during the investigation and a Sergeant called the IPD to gain investigation information. Tell me, is this really normal behavior? “No crime, no intent”, now you are the disgrace to the badge if you can write those words. I dealt with multiple agencies regarding this, so I feel very comfortable calling it widespread corruption.
4) Did you know my husband? If not, keep your opinions to yourself. If you did know him you would know he was an honest man who would be appalled that he and his family were treated the way they were by a department he worked hard for. Tell me Joe, if you had been killed in a preventable collision, would you have expected the Sheriff to take the woman to lunch or would you have expected your family to be a bigger concern to them? The fact is the woman that was found at fault for the death of one of their own was given more consideration than the family of their fallen deputy. That smells and big. Something there was corrupt. Read Hoops’ deposition and comment now Joe, you wouldn’t before, remember, you couldn’t do that before because I am a widow. Clearly you have gotten over that.
5) The fact is, without Sharon and ACU your department would still believe Duane’s death was a tragic accident and nobody would know about that despicable lunch. I don’t care about your opinion and my husband would not either. I knew my husband better than anyone, and he would find your defense of such behavior disgusting. LOP, weak sister, leg hanger… He had his words for people like you.
Thank you #99, it is nice to know people can see through the garbage that people like “James Mills” refuse to.
OOF#93……there are more corrupt developers than DA s. In fact, I would go as far as to say that every development that has sprung up in the southland the last 15 years has at least some measure of corruption.
Red Anon:
In Comment #103, you claim that “every development that has sprung up in the southland the last 15 years has at least some measure of corruption.” On a blog where I have read many over the top comments over the years, you are hereby awarded the first place prize for the most outrageous.
If your comment is accurate, in San Bernardino County alone there were easily 1,000 corrupt developers. That would make Mike Ramos prosecution of Neil Derry for allegedly laundering a single fully reported $5,000 campaign contribution even more selective, and a bigger waste of time and money.
Regarding your claim that there are “more corrupt developers than DA s,” how many developers are there vs. District Attorneys? Your statement is accurate if there are 2 corrupt developers in any given county. You should be a ghost writer for Joe Nelson.
95 sure makes a decent argument.
AntiCorruptionUnit
I also agree with #95.
Repairman:
Your report card on James Ramos first year in office is 3 weeks overdue.
Observer of Facts
I think he’s doin fine.
95 is full of shit and posting under other people’s names. Mills is a puss that wants someone to talk to. Suck off Mills you are Weak and worthless you scum sucking maggot. Mills we think you should enjoy New Years. The CHP is going to get your drunk ass. Haha
Repairman I am sure you do, good for you. I was referring to #105 my typo error.
Repairman:
Regarding comment #109, you have had several months to formulate the report card you agreed to provide us on James Ramos first year in office, all you can come up with is “doin fine?”
To say that this was not worth the wait is superfluous, and, given your elaborate comments bashing Neil Derry, I certainly expected more.
Anyway, I agreed to post my report card on James Ramos first year in office once you posted yours, so here it is:
1) Taking visible actions that show that he cares about the citizens of his district: D
2) Being accessible to his grass roots constituents: F
3) Visiting outlying regions of his district: F
4) Living up to his campaign promises: D minus
5) Creating jobs for associates, such as an “administrative analyst”
position with an annual salary of $115,518, or a “communications assistant” position with an annual salary of $77,691: A plus.
6) Using his position as a County Supervisor to leverage positive steps for his Indian Tribe and Casino: B plus.
7) Using his position as a County Supervisor to interface with other politicians and explore higher political offices: B plus
8) Attendance at Board of Supervisor meetings: C
9) Taking credit for things he had little or nothing to do with: A
10) Inducing the San Bernardino Sun to print a specious story outlining his first year’s accomplishments that does not hold up under scrutiny by an educated 12 year old: A
EXTRA CREDIT:
1) Serving on the San Bernardino County Community College Board and approving an action that paid him for meetings he did not attend: F
2) Serving on the San Bernardino County Community College Board and approving Capital Appreciation Bonds: F minus
3) Serving on the San Bernardino International Airport Authority Board: D
Note: If he was on the Board when they voted to give a convicted felon $1,000,000 without reviewing documentation to support the obligation because the convicted felon’s attorney said it was “confidential:” Change the grade to an F minus.
Observer of Facts, did you really think Repairman would come out and have a bunch of factual information to put out about James Ramos? His yearly report card is, “I think he is doing fine”. That is pretty heavy stuff when you consider the source. About as informative as James Mills.
NICE report card OoF, Bravo dude.
Observer of Facts
I take that back, I’m not that surprised to see you there.
Spaccia is on trial on 13 counts, including misappropriation of funds. If convicted, she faces up to 16 years in state prison.
Rizzo, who has been depicted as the mastermind of the brazen municipal corruption scandal that drove the modest Los Angeles suburb to the brink of bankruptcy, recently pleaded no contest to 69 counts of fraud, conflict of interest and other charges. In agreeing to testify against Spaccia and other former city officials, he will be sentenced to no more than 10 to 12 years in prison instead of a possible maximum of 70 years.
Is there a moral to this story Jerry Springer?
LSW#119……………..The moral of the story is that the mastermind may wind up doing less time then the underling. What’s more, the Bell case is a vivid example of what type of sentencing is being handed out for betraying the public trust.
BTW, the rule of thumb is, and you all know this, if you take the process all the way to jury trial and you do not prevail, they throw the book at you. This is also the reason for mastermind Rizzo taking the plea agreement and avoiding the 70 years he was facing. Not that the 10 years he is going to do is a cakewalk, but he will parole young enough to still enjoy some freedom and not a guaranteed old age death sentence in prison. Sadly, Spaccia is left holding the bag because she procrastinated or had an attorney who unrealistically went around saying “we are anxious to get this case before a jury”.
@124 all is not lost. The defendants can waive the Appeals Courts new mission, accept the reinstated charges and proceed to trial. So Mike Ramos is not out of the woods for another few months.
We will see of course.
Oh and how could I forget the slack that was cut to former Sheriff Floyd Tidwell and his 525 count (FELONY) weapons charges. Gets to plead to a misdemeanor charge that eventually get’s dismissed?
Like just what happened to Angela Gray Ms.Post scandal.
YEAH let’s talk about PUBLIC TRUST in all the recent cases around here, that has Mike Ramos name attached to it.
AntiCorruptionUnit #125
“Take a DEAL??? I’ll take my chances with 12 jurors ANYDAY.”
I hope that’s exactly the path they take.
But what I see happening is the crime boss telling his underlings not to worry, the prosecution has nothing, and we have the best lawyer in the world, if we just hang tough, hang together, we’ll all be rich. Basically the same way Rizzo was telling Spaccia our actions may not have been moral, but they were not illegal, we hang together, we’ll be fine, at the same time he’s making a deal with the DA selling her out.
Now here’s the funny part, I can see the underlings thinking to themselves that would never happen here, because we’re friends, we’re tight, and I’m gonna be rich, he promised, and he’s never screwed anybody over.
Your reaching Repairman.
Don’t think so.
REALLY Repairman, you talked with these defendants and draw that conclusion from your conversation? If not, your reaching and pulling a theory out of thin air. OR Ramos is whispering in your ear.
Ramos has SERIOUS credibility issues based on the above. Of course there are those who will disagree, but NONE who will put their name behind it.
Now if the above issues had NEVER happened, I would not be having this conversation with you or anyone else believe it or not.
Now unless in your VAST experience of being on the witness stand, putting criminal cases together and winning or losing those cases, YOU sir are at the bottom of the KNOW list.
Your political savy does not boost your resume sir.
Hey kenny,
Who do you hallucinate me to be today? David? Josh? Jim? Mike? Red?
Hey by the way, how’s your pig?
Thanks for your typical response Repairman. Easy to tell
when your on the ropes.
AntiCorruptionUnit
Hey kenny, your always calling people cowards and pussy’s for not using their own names, but you have never used yours. What’s up with that?
Or have you already said it yourself?
Anything else Repairman?
I don’t think Ramos and Ellis will ever get on a witness stand. If that were to become inevitable to them, and it could because it’s up to a judge, watch this case disappear, after the election of course.
OOF#123…..Keep mentioning Nifong, but remember, BELL has a louder ring to it.
ACU#130……………the only people that the DA has credibility issues with are the 7 or 8 people that frequent this site. To the rest of the world Ramos is a well respected DA who is back on the road to prosecuting one of the biggest corruption cases in California history. I invite you to read the new article from the Sentinal that this blog just posted regarding the state supreme court ruling. Larson’s case was based on some pretty flimsy case law. To be Honest, I expected better from him. I hope Burrum seeks a refund for that half hearted effort of his. I’m sure the court all rolled their eyes at this misapplication resembling a desperate hail Mary pass……These defendants are in bigger legal peril than they realize.
#137, you have a point, most people are fortunate and never get to find out just how willing their public officials are to completely screw them over. But, just because he has no credibility issues at this time with the public, does not mean he will win this case. And look who is his campaign guy, anyone paying attention knows who that dirtbag is and how far his reach goes. My guess is there are plenty of skeletons just waiting to fall out of their closets should anyone have the ability to open that door. And that is the great thing about the legal system, if you have relevant information, it does not matter who you are, you will go on the stand and can be deposed. It could get really interesting…
Now again Red, if your just the average Joe how would you
know about Ramos credibility issues with just a few people?
#139…………..Nice try, but these defendants have left a trail of slime in their wake and it is not going to be all that difficult to prove intent, conspiracy, bribery, aiding and abetting to a jury.
ACU……..it’s all politics and perception. That does not make it right and comment #138 is probably correct, the DA may have skeletons in his closet, what politician doesn’t? Yet, people’s attempts to make light of this ruling as #139 is trying to do is only going to back fire. The winds just are not blowing in that direction.
Red its obvious your understanding of the law is not your expertise, stick to blogging on issues with shallow meaning, you may not be called out for your lack of knowledge as much. However if you would like to understand through a learning process I would be happy to blog cliffs note versions on issues as they arise in the case. However based upon comments I have read which you have written recently and I think you would prefer to blog your opinions based upon what you want to believe versus actual facts, just don’t think some of us that know different will not correct you because I will as time permits.
Bet the only thing Lil’ Mikey is thinking about is BANGIN’ THE CHIEF (Madam) JUSTICE!
ACU#143………….You can label me a pissed off tax payer. As for case decisions, don’t you find it interesting that Larson used the case decisions he did and ignored the ones that the Supreme court used to render their decision? Don’t you think Larson knew of them? you can bet your bottom dollar he did, but they didn’t suit his purposes. Don’t you think the appellate court knew of the case law quoted by the state supreme court? It was a given that Mccarville would buy Larson’s argument and it was disappointing that the appellate court let themselves get played, but the supreme court didn’t budge. Now Larson is rushing to get things back into SBC his sphere of influence, funny don’t you think? what do I mean by Political winds? Think of the Supreme court ruling this way, they took the time to dig up relevant case law and not just buy into and use what Larson offered, which they could have done and thus ended this whole thing once and for all. In essence what they did is to rule contrary to the defense and then by remanding it back to the appellate the decision provided an unspoken direction they should take and also the opportunity to save face. Wind provides direction and this case now has a direction that has been provided by the state supreme court. All judges from here on out are going to have to tread very carefully.
#144………….oh your an expert? you must be Larson? ha ha ha. How’s your Christmas going buddy? Are you having to refund your client after Monday’s ruling? HA HA HA……get real joker!
No Red I am not Larson, I doubt he would spend the time trying to explain the case to you. I am a person who is offended by how this District Attorney promotes himself and uses minions like you to spread his gospel. Unlike you I have read most of the documents that have been made public in this case and yes through my educated review I have seen much and understand what the public will soon learn. You on the other hand seem to profess actual knowledge of the crimes based upon your aggressive stance. I would like to hear your actual knowledge versus the hearsay that you continue to repeat even though you are told the fact you are repeating is not true but you continue to repeat it in order to damage the images of the defendants. Why is that Red. I am not joking, I would like to know. Why do you spread false statements?
Red pissed off taxpayer just about this case. Sorry can’t buy that one. You should also be pissed off that people are getting charge by your beloved DA for crimes they are FACTUALLY innocent of, with as much PASSION as you display here.
You should be pissed off that other public official who haven’t been charged for ANY crimes they committed, and others who get to finally plea to a misdemeanor, when they were originally charged with 525 Felony counts. Then after taking the plea their case was DISMISSED a short time later.
BE PISSED about everything going on around here. Your buddy Mikey is making it ALL happen with the assistance of the past and present Sheriff, it’s ALL documented.
As to Mr.Larsen, NO I DO NOT find ANYTHING he has done foolish. Your comment about the case decisions he used in his argument and filings before the court, is a STANDARD practice of all attorney’s. It is simply a case the lawyer believe supports their argument. The court agrees with them, or they don’t.
Trust me Red, I don’t have much time for to many lawyers. 270,000 or so in this state, far as I am concerned 260,000 are worthless.
I have actually heard MANY good things about Larsen, and it came from various other attorneys, only bad is from the Ramos peanut gallery.
I write most of that off as pure jealousy. If your suggesting Ramos is superior in experience, background etc, to Larsen, Ramos can’t carry the man’s water. But we will see soon, when they face off. Worth the price of admission.
ACU#150…..BTW, who told you Larson was so great? was it one of those ex-cop turned corrupt lawyers that he is representing?
Red regarding your comments about Larsen defending the corrupt former cops now lawyers, or better known as LDME, was VERY disingenuous because he isn’t.
That would also be one of the corrupt lawyers that just kicked Sheriff John McMahons ass to the curb. I GOT THOSE documents.
The corrupt lawyers you have distain for, have not been charged with ANY crimes, they are facing a lawsuit. I’ll put my money on LDME at this point prevailing, because I have FIRST hand experience dealing with the ASSHOLES they are battling.
Again when the jury renders it verdict against them, have at it.
NOPE Red, it was TWO members of SB County DA’s office, one civil rights attorney who has went before Larsen when he was a Federal Judge.
Now what evidence do you have to support your comments about those corrupt lawyers? A newspaper article?
They sound like strong arm artist to me, but as you say, we will see what verdict is rendered and then I will go at it.
As to Larson, He was a federal judge, one that stepped down to make more money. I’m sure every lawyer is just in awe of him. I still say that his selective use of the case law he submitted was foolish for a lawyer of his caliber.
Red you will not find the newspapers repeating many of the stories that were originally leaked by the DA’s office, they very rarely report accusations beyond the charges themselves anymore. You however are not only repeating many, you are asserting the factual basis as if you know the them to be true. I have and will take up untruths and damaging statements with those that spread false statements, right now that’s you. The case cannot go away until such time it can be ruled on by a judge who has the jurisdiction to do so. For the last two and a half years the prosecutors have filed motions which have prevented the case from advancing. The defendants cannot present any evidence or lodge motions which challenge the factual basis of the indictment until its back in Superior Court. It has been the prosecutors that have prevented the case from moving forward, but their delay tactics are about up and the case should advance to pretrial motions next couple of months. Issues with Ramos will eventually come out, whether in this next phase of the criminal case or the next case which will be a Civil action. My guess is Ramos will let this case get dismissed before he has to take the stand and answer questions regarding many many things.
#158……”Issues with Ramos will eventually come out”
Now who is the one spreading untruths and false statements? At least what I say has a basis that can be referenced. Your assertions are found nowhere outside of this blog site and IE politics. Oh, and thank God that the DA had the gumption to see this case all the way through to the Supreme court and not just give up. The Supreme court demonstrated that Larson, the appellate court, and judge MCcarville were operating under a poor understanding of the law. This usually happens when you cherry pick case law and not take the time to consider a broader spectrum.
ACU#157…………Larson took his Knowledge of law as a judge, his legal relationships to fellow judges,and accessibility to them and put it up for sale to the highest bidder. I’m sure many judges do this, but I see it as a sell out. However, you are right in saying that he could care less…….As for him chewing my ass out in conversation, he ought to be more concerned with how he is gonna keep his client from serving multiple years in prison, especially when the weaker links of the group start to break…..
NofanofMike, what’s another $102 million dollars of county money to the District Attorney? After all, its only taxpayers money. There’s more where that came from.
Your pretty confident that Ramos doesn’t have any worries. He screwed over one of his senior DA’s to prevent him from running for office, lost, and was a coward and couldn’t even give a deposition.
He has sanctioned or supported several prosecution that BLEW up in his face either at trial or in the 11th hour, and you would like the readers to believe he has NO WORRIES in this case??? LMAO!!!!!
Hell I have a motion SUSTAINED by a Federal Judge that suggest Ramos/McMahon covered up a SHOOTING involving Sheriff’s Deputies in Yucaipa, Ca. In fact I think that motion is posted on this very blog.
The DA’s race hasn’t even picked up speed yet, which could be another nightmare for Ramos as far as tales from the past.
I think Larsen is a multi task oriented person, he might be able to chew on more than one ass at a time.
I will also make a prediction with the assertions your carrying on about, your going to find yourself in court as a defendant if not a witness. Your comments beg for that.
I’d be real surprised if a Private Investigator doesn’t serve you with a subpoena before this is all over. People like you who challenge everyone about what they say, MUST have so much KNOWLEDGE about the case it begs for you to share with a jury.
You say you want to remain anonymous, then you should not be so vocal as to lead a person to believe you have a wealth of knowledge about this case.
It would be VERY BAD for a prosecution witness to carry one such as yourself. Just an ordinary citizen who says what you say, screams to be OFFICIALLY interviewed by either side. Keep at it Red.
AntiCorruptionUnit #163
It’s good to see these hallow, desperate threats to try to silence any talk of the reality of the situation. Vary encouraging.
AntiCorruptionUnit
“I think Larsen is a multi task oriented person, he might be able to chew on more than one ass at a time.” you would know.
Repairman:
In a prior comment, you claim that “the Supreme Court handed larson and the colinis boyz their asses.”
Is that your interpretation of the “reality of the situation,” or do you have something more to offer?
Observer of Facts #167
No,that pretty much sums up what happened, in my opinion. Are you trying to say it was some kind of stunning victory for the defendants?
And I doubt the appellate court judges are thrilled about being told they were wrong, being made fools by larson. Good luck.
Dave good to see your head is as hollow as ever…
Repairman:
No, I do not deem the Supreme Court decision a victory by the defendants. As I have said previously, I was surprised by the ruling.
However, as I have also said previously, all it does is get the case back to the point where it was before the charges were dismissed. The prosecution still has to prove their case, and not taken the first step in doing so.
Also, your twisting of the ruling to suggest that the Appellate Court judges were made to look like “fools” by Mr. Larson is very creative. I’m not sure they were made to look like “fools” by anybody, but if they were, it was the Supreme Court justices who did so, not Mr. Larson.
The Appellate Court judges relied on cases fed to them by larson, now for what ever reason, possibly they were intimidated by the worlds best lawyer, or it could have been laziness, being assured by larson he was right, who knows it could have been incompetence, take your pick, being told they were wrong had to sting, and it makes them look bad, kind of foolish, like they had been played.
Repairman has never owned a pair of real mans pants in his life. Him and
Red getting their butts kick on the blog. Better call Denny and Mills for backup.
Kiss that Ramos butt Repairman, earn that money boy.
Bottom line is these Defendants will all get their asses handed to them
By Ramos and the DA at some point. Say what you want, but the 7 people who are here against Ramos will see that he is only prosecuting political corruption and because some of you don’t like him, you plot against him and create conspiracy theories to meet your agenda. Once again, you heard it here from me first. Ramos and his Staff will successfully prosecute these criminals and they will join the likes of the Bell people. Happy new year.
Another profound statement by James Mills.
I I I got to say uh something. A drunk like myself, a oh Prozac user, uh two uh liberals uh kiss asses, uh are uh fighting uh
a good fight for uh Mike Ramos, don’t you think?
Keep it up. You heard it here first. McMahon and Ramos will continue to lead this county in law enforcement and prosecution. If you don’t like it, too bad. Go cry some more. The 9 of you can get together and circle jerk each other to make you feel better about your loss. Happy new year.
Uh uh, you heard it here first James. Bottoms up. Tip to the drunks. They are people to, uh uh don’t you think?
And what is more hilarious Repairman to show how FUBAR this county is to anyone WILLING to fight, is the Sheriff’s Union lawyers told this very Deputy he had a indefensible case regarding the lighter issue.
Not only did he win his criminal case, he won his civil service case. And the two SUPREME LE officials of the county lost their asses.
Those are FACTS, they are undisputed.
James mills you really are a disgusting POS coward with no intelligent commentary to offer.
Anonymous you call me a POS but the bottom line is just because you don’t agree with me don’t make me a POS. Have a happy near year. I believe your statement makes the identity of the true POS very clear. Good day
You and Kenny should meet each other. Maybe the two of you could come up with a single full testicle.
“Circle jerk” James Mills? That is POS commentary. And I guess you could say I dont agree with that comment. And you can wish people a happy new year all you want, it doesn’t change the fact you really just say the same thing comment after comment… Maybe for the New Year you could put more thought into you commentary. Your same two predictions are tired…
Also James Mills, I have no interest in ever having one testicle much less two. I have done just fine all these years without them.
I I I drink with James madam, uh uh if you please.
anonymous #84
Testicle envy?
I’d ask you the same question Repairman?
McMahon will never be elected to be the real sheriff. He can always hang his hat on the welfare sheriff hat tree. Now Ramos will not win either. With that said have a very great New Year. Kenny and others keep up the good work. Can’t wait to see all those new law suits at SBSD for 2014. Banner year I’m sure.
Boy the Mike “Nifong” Ramos lovers are in full swing…wait until they see what their butt boy, and his minions, did to the law and the Constitution….LOL..they must be in full, paid, desperation mode….LMFAO!
Anonymous #87
Absolute specimens, but I’ll bet you’ve already fantasized about that. Your welcome.
Anonymous #189
What is it exactly that Ramos has done to “the law and the Constitution”?
I don’t believe you can name a single thing.
Repairman seeing your specimens on a platter, that would be cool. Then I would feed them to the sharks at sea world.
Repairman, no “testicular envy” here, I think one can have plenty of “balls” without ever having testicles:-)
More ball talk, ughhhhhhh!
Yes Red that is true, it only took two try’s, but he got em. As to Rex attitude, etc, NO argument from me. I knew him when he first became a City Councilman in Rancho Cucamonga LONG AGO. NEVER have been a Rex fan.
Have you went to the State Bar website and actually read ALL the issues with Reiss??? WOW, that’s all I am going to say about that.
Red I’ll bash the PISS out of ANY politician, I don’t play that party over principle shit. I arrested more Republicans than Democrats. I arrested Paul Baine and Bob Dutton. Does that tell you anything?
I am will aware of the Red Hill crony BS, and LONG before you were.
Then you are in a no win situation my friend.
Red Anon, blame James Mills, he drags the dialogue down…
Oh Red, before you suck up to Mills anymore, he played to all those Red Hill boys and kissed all that Republican butt as needed. I bet he even had lunch with Rex. So a word of caution on all that. Mills is not a leader, he is a FOLLOWER.
You know the Administrator of this blog did the same thing and you defend him, I could offer you the same advise.
BTW….Hey administrator, we passed the 200 mark on comments, are there any prizes?
I need not win anything Red. Not trying to win anything. But I damn sure not going to let Ramos supporters go unchallenged with their rhetoric about how BITCHEN he is.
HA HA HA, who said he was Bitchen? He is a politician and they are ALL full of faults.
203 Ramos is full of shit. Use the right words.
You may offer the same advise Red. Thank you.
Anon#205…..Please refrain from such language MR Larson
ACU…..I can tell you are as fed up as I am. Have you ever thought of running for a local office? It’s obvious you are a straight dealer and I will say this much, people right now are desperate for that. Sleep on it, goodnight.
#201 – You won the prize. Its the left-over urine specimens for the DUI’s…..
LOL Red, NOT for a second have I ever thought of politics.
LOL Sgt.Milstar, thought for sure we were looking at a big screen TV.
Red Anon doesn’t get it. Mike Ramos IS the political corruption in this County. He has been for the last decade. I hear that Brett Granlund is telling people that if they support Mike Morrell over his unqualified wife for State Senate that Ramos will be coming after them!
That’s why we need to elect Paul Schrader for sheriff. Hate Paul or love him. He will stop that good old boy system. James Mills unless you can tell us all the good positive stuff Mcfuck has done, save your bullshit and get off your knees you weak sister.
Anonymous # 210:
Mike Ramos reminds me of the poker player who sat down at the table in a saloon, pulled out a large knife with a shiny blade, laid it on the table in front of him, and said: “This is to discourage cheating.”
Then, every time he dealt, he read the reflection of the cards on the knife blade.
Only if the judges are lewd enough to continue this friendly feud.
OOF#213…….maybe they shouldn’t be playing poker. Those sound like high stakes to me.
Milstar#209…………..come on, you have to do better than that. At least have Foster Brooks present it to me.
Anonymous #217
The deck has been changed, the marked cards are gone, good luck.
And as long as your threatening monetary retaliation, don’t forget the other $200,000,000.00 for the balance of he cost of that drainage ditch.
Your desperation is heartwarming.
Repairman give us your EXPERT political analogy of the two SENIOR wiz kids on the BOS, Ovitt and Gonzales. Maybe a CERTIFIED bean counter can look at the books and tag those two with giving the NOD to over a half billion or so in lawsuit settlements, bad public/personal projects during their tours of duty.
We can maybe use Josie’s vast experience from the airport scandal, oops, we might have to include James Ramos is some of that.
AntiCorruptionUnit
Wow, your wound up this morning.
I think 12 taxpayers deciding their fate would be perfect.
The time has come for both sides to quit talking, and start proving what they said about this case. Let’s see who is more eager to do just that.
Let’s get it done, or started, and WELL before June 2014. That could be a plus or minus for Mike Ramos and crew.
I’ll call his bluff and raise him his NEXT TERM.
Now let’s get busy folks so everyone can at least see for OURSELVES where the evidence is to prove or disapprove this case.
Why do you think depositions and other court documents were put up on these blogs especially regarding testimony of CERTAIN people on other matters?
I bet Rod Hoops wishes he NEVER took that woman who killed Detective Duane Parkinson to lunch, or EVEN talked to her on the phone.
Some of you clowns called BS on everything related to that incident. OOPS, someone met your challenge. And most of you are STILL hiding.
Let’s go Mikey.
Life observer #125
You’ve got a pretty wild conspiracy theory of your own. 2014 could be a very enlightening year, if all the conspiracy theorist’s would start providing facts instead of hallow, hyperbole threats.
OFF topic, I TRUELY hope all of you have a SAFE New Years. PLEASE stay home and celebrate, it’s so much safer. GOOD DAY!!!