“James Ramos (at Right) is disingenuous,” Derry (at Left) said. “He falsely accuses me of being a felon, he falsely accuses me of not being a businessman when I have a decade of private sector experience, he falsely claims to be a successful businessman when his two coffee shops have closed (laying off those minimum wage employees) and his two ‘restaurants’ are empty, and he has never produced a jobs plan of any type.
By Guy McCarthy
September 18, 2012
Opponents in the campaign for Third District, which includes Redlands and Loma Linda, continued sparring this week over the use of eminent domain as a way to deal with underwater mortgages in San Bernardino County.
The county, the city of Ontario and the city of Fontana recently formed a Homeownership Protection Program joint powers authority to look at proposals to address this issue.
Incumbent Neil Derry says he is open to exploring whether eminent domain can be used to protect vulnerable homeowners.
Challenger James Ramos announced in August he is opposed to its use by the county joint powers authority. As a leader of the San Manuel Band of Mission Indians, he did not oppose the use of eminent domain when the city of Highland needed land to make street improvements to cope with increased traffic from his tribe’s casino.
“The way I understand it this would be a tool used to condemn a mortgage, not a physical home or residence,” Derry told Redlands-Loma Linda Patch last week.
“But it’s ironic the former chairman of the San Manuel tribe says he is opposed to exploring the use of eminent domain in an effort to protect under-water home owners, because he was not opposed to it when it benefited his casino,” Derry said.
Ramos did not respond to messages seeking comment, but he said through his spokesman Andre Levesque:
“Neil Derry is trying to compare Apples and Oranges. Apparently he doesn’t understand the issue yet he is the driving force behind a government program that would seize private property from homeowners. Voters should be frightened.”
Derry read Levesque’s remarks and reponded within an hour of their publication Tuesday Sept. 18.
“His spokesman is lying,” Derry said. “This is not about taking physical property, which James Ramos is ok with.
“The concept is about taking the mortgage from predatory lenders and negotiating with the existing property owners so they can keep their homes,” Derry said.
“It’s clear Mr. Ramos’ spokesman does not understand what the county joint powers authority is looking at,” Derry said. “That or he’s lying, because he’s saying something that is absolutely untrue. He’s either mistaken or he’s lying.”
Levesque, alerted to Derry’s remarks, steered his response from eminent domain to small businesses and jobs.
“Voters should be concerned with Neil’s support of such a gross expansion of government authority that uses eminent domain for something it was never intended for,” Levesque said. “This proposal doesn’t grow the county’s small businesses or create one job and that is what the voters want to get San Bernardino County back on track. James is the best person to address the county’s needs that’s why they should voter for James in the upcoming election.”
Derry responded at length, accusing his opponent of being less than sincere:
“Here again, Mr. Ramos and his spokesman are misstating my position and the facts. I have only supported the analysis of this proposal, not its implementation. I have a BA in Political Science and have serious concerns about the Constitutionality of this proposal, but I am not going to willy-nilly oppose it like my misinformed opponent.
“If there is an opportunity to help homeowners KEEP their houses, I am willing to consider the option,” Derry said. “Apparently, Mr. Ramos does not care about the thousands of homeowners in our County that are partly victims of predatory lending practices.
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Ouch to infinity and beyond!
Derry does look like Buzz Lightyear….funny
Ramos looks like a slimeball casino boss who pays no taxes, isnt very bright and is easy to manipulate.
Anon#3…..Give it up. Your comments are only making you look foolish and desperate. Some say that there are only two sure things in life, death and taxes. Let me revise that, there are four sure things in life, death, taxes, Derry’s loss in November and Romney’s DEVASTATING loss in November.
Mr Derry, If you are out there you might want to consider keeping your minions in check. After November you will need a new job and it wouldn’t be smart to allow your friends to wreck potential opportunities that may await you in the world of Indian gaming. Remember, many on these folk have corrupt developer money to live off of, you don’t, so don’t burn your bridges.
According to Neil Derry, Andre Levesque is “either mistaken or he’s lying.” Based on everything I have seen to date, I vote for “lying.”
Also, I keep wondering why James Ramos wont speak for himself, and then I remember watching a video of his performance at the candidates forum at Big Bear Lake earlier in the year.
derry accusing someone of lying, that’s rich.
This is the year of voting “incumbents” out! Time to get rid of dead weight,
Repairman:
James Ramos hiding behind a “spokesman;” that’s “rich” as well.
Mary:
I am somewhat in agreement with you on the anti incumbent sentiment, particularly in Sacramento.
However, an element of an informed decision should be to consider the qualifications of the person who will be replacing the incumbent.
Those who want Neil Derry out should consider doing so.
Actually, according to newspaper reports, Ramos IS lying. He said through his spokesman that Derry wants to take people’s homes. Not only is that NOT the proposal before the JPA, it is illegal under a proposition voters passed 4 years ago that protects residential property from eminent domain.
Mary: the only dead weight is the fat around James Ramos richly enhanced midsection….that guy seriously needs a diet. President Taft didn’t have his girth…
Observer of Facts:
I meant derry was rich in hypocrisy being he is the only one on the ballot that has been arrested , charged, and convicted. Is he still on probation?
nuts #10:
What do you think Mortgage resolution partners are trying to do?
It’s all about eminent domain.
@#8
James Ramos has made attempts to speak, but only smoke signals come out…to the Mexican mafia running the drug trafficking and prostitution ring INSIDE HIS CASINOS…San Bermnardino scum no longer need to go to a corner on Baseline to pick up a prostitute…words has gone out that pimps, prostitutes and their customers can SAFELY cut a deal INSIDE AT THE CASINO’S BARS.
Repairman:
A few weeks ago you FINALLY admitted that Neil Derry was never “arrested.”
Now you are once again claiming that he was.
Are you working for James Ramos “spokesman” Andre Levesque?
The “None of the Above” option should be added to every ballot in the country.
Observer of Facts #14:
Again your splitting hairs, if he hadn’t surrender himself he would have been arrested. I notice you didn’t dispute his being charged and convicted. By the way is he still on probation?
Repairman:
“Splitting hairs” is the same argument you made previously before finally admitting that Neil Derry was never arrested. There is a big difference between cooperating with the authorities, as Mr. Derry did, and being arrested.
Given the showboating Mike Ramos did with the Paul Biane wanted poster, I am positive that he would have done something similar with Mr. Derry if he had been given the opportunity
Yes, Neil Derry was “charged” for laundering a single $5,000 campaign contribution that was fully reported, and plead guilty after the Attorney General dropped the felony charges. We have been through my feelings on the matter many times, and it does not bear repeating.
The unfortunate thing in my mind is that Mike Ramos selective and politically motivated prosecution seems to have achieved its objective. Although it didn’t force Neil Derry to divert his time and resources for the past year, it still gave James Ramos supporters ammunination to attack Mr. Derry with.
Since they would rather do that than explain how James Ramos is qualified to be a County Supervisor, I expect a lot more of it in the next 2 months.
Observer of Facts;
Bottom line is, if he hadn’t shown up they would have gone and got him.
Observer of Facts:
By the way derry is still on probation isn’t he? Maybe he could get his probation officer to say what a model probationer he’s been (if he has been one).
Repairman:
You previously suggested that you have never been in court, and your argument that speculation is important certainly confirms it. There are some forums where what actually occurred is important, and speculation about future events is not.
Hey, I wonder if James Ramos ever got a speeding ticket. If so, and he didn’t respond appropriately, the court could have issued a warrant for his arrest. Under your logic, “if he hadn’t shown up they would have gone and got him,” so I guess that means that James Ramos might have been arrested?
Repairman:
Yes, Neil Derry is still on probation. To refresh your memory, here is an excerpt from and an article in The Sun:
“Derry’s plea followed a three-hour series of meetings with San Bernardino Superior Court Judge Michael Dest and attorneys for both sides. State Deputy Attorney General Emily Hanks agreed to drop the felony charges of perjury and filing a false document.
Dest sentenced Derry to three years of probation and ordered him to pay a $5,820 fine to the state Fair Political Practices Commission and a $4,180 fine to the court. Both fines must be paid by Sept. 19.
“This was clearly a political prosecution from the beginning in an effort to remove me from office without cause,” Derry, 42, said after the hearing. “I agreed to this so I can get back to work. This was a compromise. I still maintain my innocence.”
He blames a rival, District Attorney Michael A. Ramos, for fueling the prosecution. The case was investigated by the District Attorney’s Office before being handed off to state prosecutors to avoid a potential conflict of interest.
Derry pushed for an investigation when Ramos was accused of sexually harassing a former employee in 2009 and in the same year also proposed stripping district attorney’s investigators of their take-home vehicles to help shore up the budget.
The District Attorney’s Office declined comment.”
Observer of Facts:
Poor poor derry their always picking on him.
Repairman,
No one is “picking” on Derry, YOU are the only one making all the negative noise about him; and it’s half heartfelt at that.
In fact, even you do not believe most of the things you spew here.
I’d think twice before mocking him- you know how they warn about the quiet ones.
Anonymous:
Thanks for the attempt at intimidation. But nobody’s mocking the little guy just trying to figure out why anyone would vote for someone like him.
He’s already been caught lying , cheating and finally convicted in court in regards to where he gets his political campaign cash. Why would anyone believe anything he say’s now.
Repairman….This just in, Tim Pawlenty just quit the Derry campaign. HA HA HA.
Repairman….
Funny how you are SO offended at Derry…
The money was honestly reported; perhaps not in the column or page the FPPC needed it stated…
The normal, usual day to day practice of dealing with this is for the FPPC to send a letter to the TREASURER ASKING TO PLEASE AMEND, and make the correction from page X to page Y–END OF STORY!
BUT DA Mike Ramos heard of the correction Derry’s treasurer was asked to correct. In a rush, Ramos took advantage and ABUSED HIS POWER AND AUTHORITY in order to falsely STAIN Neil Derry’s name and reputation for the SOLE POLITICAL PURPOSE OF CLEARING THE WAY FOR JAMES RAMOS….
and YOU Repairman, feel good about casting a vote for someone like Ramos who had to cheat, lie and rip apart unjustly his opponent’s name?
How could YOU not be offended by Mike Ramos collecting thousands in political contributions…having NO opponent, Ramos then cuts a check for thousands of dollars made out to Gretchen Ramos. She, in turn, agrees to conspire and deposit the money into HER PERSONAL bank account for HER enjoyment!
The FPPC was NOT amused, and FINED Mike and Gretchen Ramos for FUNNELING POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS INTO GRETCHEN’S PERSONAL ACCOUNT.
No criminal charges—-must be nice to be THE TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER!
Ramos’ political contributors should be DEMANDING, if not suing, to have their political contributions RETURNED!
Repairman…..I hear Derry is naming his new lounge act TITANIC in memory of his political career. Led Zeppelin was already taken.
Red Annn.
I think that would be vary fitting.
Red Anon, Repairman and a Casino Boss sittin’ in a tree, ki$$ing, first comes… (oh no, the GOP branch broke that the PHAT CASINO BOSS was hanging-off of come the November elections, which way did HE go, which way did WE go?)
Those of us that haven’t been BOUGHT-OFF by CASINO CASH will reelect our seated Supervisor, because we know he is the real deal and doesn’t bow down to the special interests like the San Manuel Band of Mission Indians, SBPEA OR SEBA!
It’s no wonder that CEO Devilreaux and DA Mikey are trying everything they can do to PULL HIM DOWN, Mr. Derry is the only leader in the whole Inland Valley that is a threat to the Devil’s Evil Empire of Corruption and his government vision for Confusion of the Masses (maximize Federal Dollars by minimizing private sector wealth aka REDISTRIBUTION).
Hail Yes I’m voting for Derry, even this blind dude can see that the Devil’s vision is self-serving for the BIG GOVERNMENT/ BIG BUSINESS SLOW DANCE to continue and designed to take the region STRAIGHT TO HELL… VOTE FOR DERRY (he’s the people’s only salvation).
LSW….He’s a grand wizard that doesn’t have a snow balls chance in hell. Everyone knows it except you. Stick a fork in that turkey cuzz he’s done.