Ryan Hagen, Staff Writer
Posted: 08/05/2012 07:55:32 PM PDT
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Special Section: San Bernardino
SAN BERNARDINO – The city’s charter won’t be put on November’s ballot, following hours of discussion and an alleged threat against a councilman.
The city’s 46-page governing document could still be put up for a later vote after a petition by citizens, but after the council’s 4-3 vote Monday, it’s too late for November.
“This is a government in habitual chaos – the word `ungovernable’ comes to mind,” Mayor Pat Morris said, blaming the charter for much of that chaos but saying it might be best if residents led the charge.
Morris did not vote on the item. Councilmen Rikke Van Johnson and Fred Shorett and Councilwoman Virginia Marquez voted to put it on the ballot, while Councilwoman Wendy McCammack and Councilmen Robert Jenkins, John Valdivia and Chas Kelley voted it down.
Kelley said that the controversy at one point elevated to threats.
He said that during a break before the discussion of the charter, attorney Tim Prince showed him a recall petition and said it would go away if Kelley voted to put the measure on the ballot.
“This is politics as usual,” Kelley said. “I am serving and representing the representatives of the 5th Ward, and this gross intimidation tactics shall not stand.”
Prince said he went up to Kelley because he considered him a swing vote, but he didn’t make any threat.
“I put my hand on your shoulder as a friend and said, `Do the right thing,”‘ Prince said.
The petition, which had only two signatures, says Kelley should be recalled for several reasons and concluded by saying he “dismissed our concerns by denying us the right to vote on repealing the city charter.”
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How typical of Tim Prince, always trying to screw others over, or attempt to “fool” them with some stupid half thought out plan. No wonder no serious politician, even within his party, takes him seriously or trusts him.
Tim Prince is stupid to talk to Kelley. Penman the master opera conducter, turned it quickly to his advantage. After it failed by the most recent block of “scared puppets” Penman suddenly was confounded by rules to amend charter or place on ballot. Yet, somehow along the “Transcom” it was said 10% of signatures in last Mayoral election.
Perhaps, San Bankrupt can get by until March. But failure is the path it seemingly knows best. Unions killed the
” Golden Goose” Kaiser Steel, high graduates had a month off each year boats and RV’s, then nothing.
Some of those citizen leaders not living in SB needs to get registered with the Atty General Office or stop soliciting donations on website.
Hucksters and con artist come out of the woodwork. Beware!
Q: How many lawyer jokes are there?
A: Only three. The rest are true stories.
“Tim Prince is stupid to talk to Kelley.”
Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 70?
A: Tim Prince.
Much of the City of San Bernardino’s financial issues come from their human resources dept. One of the former names in that office was Ed Raya, who allegedly left for reasons concerning his actions there. Ed Raya then was made director of H.R. in Fontana, but was allegedly let go for keeping his ex-wife on his city insurance well after their divorce was finalized. Ed Raya is now director of H.R. in Oceanside, CA. To truly find the culprits in San Bernardino, you must start back many years.
Trying to figure out how long it took the piece of shit to get the other signature.