County Supervisor Neil Derry left. Tribal Member James Ramos right.
Thursday, April 26, 2012 – 09:00 a.m.
The former leader of the San Manuel Band of Mission Indians has dropped his clean campaign pledge in his quest to unseat San Bernardino County Third District Supervisor Neil Derry.
Candidate James Ramos is telling mountain constituents he’s ended his desire to run a clean issue-oriented campaign and instead has went negative against Derry.
Ramos says since Derry hit him first, he will respond in kind.
Derry slammed Ramos in a campaign mailer to permanent absentee voters last week on the fact Ramos has taken more than $592,000 from tribal gaming interests to fund his campaign.
Ramos returned the favor a few days later by attacking Derry for pleading guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance reporting violation.
District voters should expect to be on the receiving end of several entertaining mailers from both campaigns in the coming days.
Ramos’ he started it first excuse is funny though.
No ice cream after dinner kids.
Ramos was always going to hit Derry. You don’t hire a Sacramento consultant like Dave Gilliard to run a “clean” campaign. Ramos is a liar and a hypocrite who thought he could buy an election. The voters in June are going to show him the door.
Everybody bitches about the gaming money. Who gambles there? John Q Citizen. But everybody acts. Like it’s a dirty place. Too funny
Would that make Ramos an “INDIAN GIVER?!”
Great!
That is ALL we need in the 3rd District, a cry baby supervisor that pouts and kicks and WANTS IT HIS WAY…OR ELSE HE WILL TAKE IT BACK!!!
What an entertaining election!
RAMOS’ CAMPAING CLOWNS ARE PUTTING ON, BEFORE ALL OF SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY, THE MOST ENTERTAINING AND STUPIDEST POLITICAL FAUX PAS BLUNDERS WE’VE SEEN EVER.
SHOULD WE LAUGH OR PITTYY THEM?
Do whatever you want Neil & Jim..When James wins the only one pouting will be you two!
If James Ramos wins, SBC deserves to go up in flames!
So then in reality, you really don’t have any love for SB county unless you can control it’s politics and coffers? SAD!, but the trueth always comes out and this is the very reason why you and your cohorts should have no part in making county decisions.
According to James Ramos, “Derry hit him first.”
In actuality, the bogus felony charges against Neil Derry launched by James Ramos supporters were the first blow.
No in reality Derry broke the law. It does no good to take the Rex Gutierrez approach of “there were others who weren’t doing work, how come they didn’t get in trouble?” If Derry had a healthy respect for the rule of law then his opposition would have no leverage against him. Instead, he is part and parcel with the culture of corruption rampant in San Bernardino county.
Actually, Derry did not break any laws. The charges were trumped up by Mike Ramos to get his butt-buddy James Ramos elected. When the judge forced an early conclusion to the bogus charges, the Ramos’s lost there only chance at victory, which was to drag Derry through trial all the way up to election.
Now Derry is free to beat the crap out of both Ramoses, and the casino dollars they rode in on.
So Derry is on probation like a common criminal because he didn’t break any laws? hahaha! Hardly! Check the history on the case, when questioned, Derry readilly admitted to the crime and then plead ignorance. Nice try at re-writing history and very soon Derry will be history.
Ramos getting dirty? Now this is funny. The fat, slovenly casino boss of the mexican mafia band of san manuel “Indians” acting dirty? HAHAHHAHAHA. This oaf is as stupid as you can imagine. What a loser. The chance of us voting for this crooked mexican is zero.
Where are the newspapers?
Are any of them going to report about the obvious inconsistencies in Ramos’ Form 700 filings?
Are any of them going to do an expose on Ramos’ illegal acceptance of money for San Bernardino Community College Trustee meetings he didn’t attend?
Are any of them going to do an expose on the numerous times Ramos’ voted to give his colleagues who were absence their pay?
Where is the media………..WAAA, Ramos is doing bad stuff too, waaaa. According to the train of thought of this blog site, why waste good taxpayer money on such an non issue prosecution?
Ramos stupid? maybe, but he wasn’t the one who confessed to campaign fraud was he?
If the charges were bogus, why did he plead out?
Curious:
RE: “If the charges were bogus, why did he plead out?”
If the charges were NOT “bogus,” why did the prosecution agree to dismiss the felony charges?
As “Hello” discusses in comment #9, the intent of the prosecutions charges, including two (2) felony charges, was to “drag Derry through trial all the way up to election.”
Judge Dest saw right through their intent, and forced the prosecution to “plead out” and dismiss the felony charges.
“and instead has went negative.” Wow. No wonder this site is a joke. Union goons don’t learn too good.
Did everyone get Derry’s new piece….Republican side by side with Ramos being what he is, a left wing Jerry Brown appointee and Obama Supporter!
Everyone should Suntelegram when Derry took office. Derry and Erwin went after the District Attorney Union who supported Derry against Hansbuger. Why would Derry and Erwin go after the DA Office and Judges interesting Suntelegram storys. James Ramos daughter disclosed that her fathe JR wrote money checkes to Derry when she responded to Michelle Ramos slamming her father while was so active in all in 21. Derry did you those checks James Ramos gave you for your 2008 campaign -somebody is going to jail or work in a Correctional Fire Crew! You have the right to remain ailent anything you ….Oh I sure yours already!
Freedom: You must drink too much. James Ramos wrote personal checks to the Hansberger Campaign, as did his entire family. You really need to lay off the sauce.
At least Ramos has brought job creation to San Bernardino county, what has Derry done in terms of jobs? Let’s stick to the basics and go from there.
All Derry has done is to stir up racial divisions.
Mr. Ramos, what is the use of pledging to run a clean campaign and simply negate that promise with an opponent you knew would talk about your hertiage and money. Are you any better?
The MAN I have chosen to follow through most of my life consistently practiced love and helped the “no body”. After 2,000 years, it is still paying off.
You have plenty of money. Is this office worth “bastardizing” your persona?
Ramos has brought jobs? Yeah, by swindling little old ladies out of their SSI Checks and welfare recipients of their EBT Cards. To work at their casino, you even have to sign a waiver of your right to sue if you develop lung cancer from their cigarette smoke polluted air.
The only jobs Ramos is responsible for are the jobs he personally subsidizes at Yum Yum restaurant which is always EMPTY!
How many rentals does Derry have that constitute his idea of being a businessman? Ha ! what a comedian. Employment is coming to an end for the whole lot of you and then some of you can turn to the more pressing matter of fighting corruption charges. As for the rest, I suggest Mcdonalds because political strategy is definitely not your cup of tea.
James has his own more serious problems…like the fact that the voters in the 3rd aren’t voting for a liberal Democrat who supports Jerry Brown and Barrack Obama and their tax increases on the middle class.
Actually, I don’t believe that the voters of the 3rd are the mindless drones that you count on them to be. I believe that they see past the the supposedly loaded words that you try to throw out such as liberal and Democrat. You use them as if they are supposed to be some sort of rally cry for all to start circling the wagons because the Indians are attacking. This is not 1850 and it’s not 1965. Heck it isn’t even 2011, we are in a new day and age in which people are fed up with the small minded and corrupt politics you and Derry offer up in steaming heaps to the people. The racial divisions that you presume will invigorate your evaporating base is your undoing. Have you ever seen the movie Giant? You will be the Rock Hudson character as you watch your child marry into another race because the world has changed and you are no longer relevant or able to keep up with the progress society makes. in fact, you and Derry are a hindrance to progress and everyone recognizes that.
The Hansburgerler and DA Mikey sittin’ in a tree k-i-$-$-i-n-g…
First comes love (for money, aka GREED)…
Then come marriage (to the corruption of the SHYSTEM, aka Shysters running the system)…
The comes a baby DemoRat Ramos Bro. in their GOP baby carriage…?
…you are no longer relevant or able to keep up with the progress society makes.”
Yeah, and if society changes even further into a sewer, and suddenly says it’s ok for a dog and a man to marry because “society has changed” you will be the first fool who will run out to the dog pound to find a groom.
That is the problem with Ramos’ supporters like yourself, no sense of right and wrong, no foundation of principals, values or anything concrete…you allow “society’s fools” to be your God and dictate to you.
LSW, WTF?
Ya kind of the way the Bush crowd did.
Now that’s LIttle Stevie Wonder!
If Anonymous (pro Derry) and Hello represent the majority of the constituents of San Bernardino County, then Derry will win. If Mr. Derry is anything like the two mentioned, IT IS A SAD DAY for San Bernardino County. Simply NOTHING positive . . . .
You rarely see anything that even comes close to basic political beliefs or issues. You simply see things like: anti-liberal, anti-Democrat, anti-Brown, anti-Obama and swindling old ladies. You know these old ladies would kick you in the _____ if you got in their way as they entered the casino with their Social Security checks.
Again, Mr. Derry, is you can’t disassociate yourself from these negatives who represent “your camp”, you have lost our families FOUR VOTES!!!
Marcus : Do yourself a favor and view the candidate forum that was attended by Supervisor Derry, James Ramos, and Jim Bagley which took place up here in Big Bear, and was hosted by our Democratic Club. It is priceless viewing. You will get a chance to see for yourself the vast difference there is between Supervisor Derry and Mr. Ramos.
As you view this, log down how many times Mr. Ramos answered a question with: We need to be able to get along (Board of Supervisors), we need to engage with the community to find out what their needs are, We need to do a better job of marketing the Big Bear Valley.
He never gave any specifics as to solutions to the issues that he was addressing. He only talked in generalities. I truly was embarrassed for him. The one time he ventured out from under his spokesman’s thumb, he really showed how uninformed he is. He couldn’t even speak without looking at his notebook which I assume contained his advisors talking points.
Supervisor Derry, on the other hand, spoke without any notes. He spoke from EXPERIENCE. There is no comparison between these two candidates. Supervisor Derry has earned another four years to serve our district.
You can watch this forum by logging on to: http://www.channel6bigbear.com .
Click on Supervisors Forum. It is broken into five 20 minute segments. Pop some popcorn and enjoy the show. You will see first hand the difference between these three candidates.