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> <channel><title>Comments on: RivPE: DA: $102 million stolen from taxpayers</title> <atom:link href="http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/02/11/rivpe-da-102-million-stolen-from-taxpayers/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/02/11/rivpe-da-102-million-stolen-from-taxpayers/</link> <description>Politics, Government and Business in Southern California&#039;s Inland Empire</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 09:55:56 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: truthseekerSBC</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/02/11/rivpe-da-102-million-stolen-from-taxpayers/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link> <dc:creator>truthseekerSBC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:09:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2953#comment-689</guid> <description>ACU...once again thank you for your insight... your indepth opinon and information, fleshes out and adds value to the important issues discussed in these blogs!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACU&#8230;once again thank you for your insight&#8230; your indepth opinon and information, fleshes out and adds value to the important issues discussed in these blogs!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AntiCorruptionUnit</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/02/11/rivpe-da-102-million-stolen-from-taxpayers/comment-page-1/#comment-674</link> <dc:creator>AntiCorruptionUnit</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:05:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2953#comment-674</guid> <description>truthseekerSBC you make some excellent points.
Not only pay back for the blogs, MAYBE pay back to Derry for pushing the Ramos investigation and then getting it released to the public.
Payback for the other BOS members who voted in favor of the investigation and release of it??
Remember when the investigation of Ramos was called for, shortly there after Ramos infomred the BOS, &quot;OK, you can investigate me, BUT I am not done with the Colonies investigation&quot;.
If Ramos had filed the charges he did the other day long before his investigation, then I&#039;d say no harm no foul, but the events of the other day appear to be more pay back for not getting his way than seeking justice for the taxpayers.
I know a couple of detractors will say that&#039;s crap, but when the pac funding issue was talked about A LONG time ago and common knowledge among the powers to be, that should have been a red flag for investigators to start looking. AND it does not take 2-3 years to discover what you now see in the charges.
Overt acts 1-45 that says between Jan 2006-March 2008 or whatever is very general, and that could have been done long ago.
There are a couple of sayings in the judicial system that both cops and DA&#039;s have used.
&quot;arrest them, let the DA sort it out&quot;, &quot;charge them, let the jury decide&quot;.
John Does 1-5 will be charged, and the jury will decide if there is reasonable doubt.
The general attitude is used when someone is pissed off, has a flimsy case, but has sufficient probable cause to arrest or file charges.
The party arresting or charging may know full well that there is insufficient evidence to obtain a conviction, but they don&#039;t care, someone else can decide the defendants fate.
Sometimes it&#039;s done just to CYA. Best example could have been the attitude in the Ivory Webb case. Prosecute him and keep the public off our butts, this looks bad, we don&#039;t need the heat attitude.
Now for those idiots who might say this is all BS, consider this.
Ramos could have avoided 99% of the bad press and blog comments if when HIS office decided this corruption must be dealt with because of his great concern and desire to seek justice for the taxpayers by calling Jerry Brown from the get go and let his office handle THE entire case.
Let&#039;s take Mark Leggio, Ramos&#039;s and many others good friend and political supporter for more than a few politicians in this area.
When Leggio&#039;s criminal conduct came out, Ramos asked the Riverside DA to handle the investigation. Conviction obtained, little discussion in the press. NO SHIT splatter on Ramos&#039;s shoes. NOT even the appearance of political favoritism or misconduct.
Ramos could have played behind the scenes and let Jerry stand in front of the camera&#039;s and in court and not subjected his office to all that has been said regarding this case and obtained the end result. A win win situation.
The greatest example of what arrogance will do for you if you can&#039;t step back for a second and look.
The collateral damage done by all this is beyond understanding and description at this time.
Beside Jerry Brown is the man, he knows what he is doing, just ask him.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truthseekerSBC you make some excellent points.</p><p>Not only pay back for the blogs, MAYBE pay back to Derry for pushing the Ramos investigation and then getting it released to the public.</p><p>Payback for the other BOS members who voted in favor of the investigation and release of it??</p><p>Remember when the investigation of Ramos was called for, shortly there after Ramos infomred the BOS, &#8220;OK, you can investigate me, BUT I am not done with the Colonies investigation&#8221;.</p><p>If Ramos had filed the charges he did the other day long before his investigation, then I&#8217;d say no harm no foul, but the events of the other day appear to be more pay back for not getting his way than seeking justice for the taxpayers.</p><p>I know a couple of detractors will say that&#8217;s crap, but when the pac funding issue was talked about A LONG time ago and common knowledge among the powers to be, that should have been a red flag for investigators to start looking. AND it does not take 2-3 years to discover what you now see in the charges.</p><p>Overt acts 1-45 that says between Jan 2006-March 2008 or whatever is very general, and that could have been done long ago.</p><p>There are a couple of sayings in the judicial system that both cops and DA&#8217;s have used.</p><p>&#8220;arrest them, let the DA sort it out&#8221;, &#8220;charge them, let the jury decide&#8221;.</p><p>John Does 1-5 will be charged, and the jury will decide if there is reasonable doubt.</p><p>The general attitude is used when someone is pissed off, has a flimsy case, but has sufficient probable cause to arrest or file charges.</p><p>The party arresting or charging may know full well that there is insufficient evidence to obtain a conviction, but they don&#8217;t care, someone else can decide the defendants fate.</p><p>Sometimes it&#8217;s done just to CYA. Best example could have been the attitude in the Ivory Webb case. Prosecute him and keep the public off our butts, this looks bad, we don&#8217;t need the heat attitude.</p><p>Now for those idiots who might say this is all BS, consider this.</p><p>Ramos could have avoided 99% of the bad press and blog comments if when HIS office decided this corruption must be dealt with because of his great concern and desire to seek justice for the taxpayers by calling Jerry Brown from the get go and let his office handle THE entire case.</p><p>Let&#8217;s take Mark Leggio, Ramos&#8217;s and many others good friend and political supporter for more than a few politicians in this area.</p><p>When Leggio&#8217;s criminal conduct came out, Ramos asked the Riverside DA to handle the investigation. Conviction obtained, little discussion in the press. NO SHIT splatter on Ramos&#8217;s shoes. NOT even the appearance of political favoritism or misconduct.</p><p>Ramos could have played behind the scenes and let Jerry stand in front of the camera&#8217;s and in court and not subjected his office to all that has been said regarding this case and obtained the end result. A win win situation.</p><p>The greatest example of what arrogance will do for you if you can&#8217;t step back for a second and look.</p><p>The collateral damage done by all this is beyond understanding and description at this time.</p><p>Beside Jerry Brown is the man, he knows what he is doing, just ask him.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Unwilling...</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/02/11/rivpe-da-102-million-stolen-from-taxpayers/comment-page-1/#comment-673</link> <dc:creator>Unwilling...</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:56:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2953#comment-673</guid> <description>Neo Cons? Brown is a Neo Con? Hmmmm. Don&#039;t see how anyone that sat around protesting Vietnam and smoked dope with Linda Rondstadt can earn that label but....
Funny how Mikey is now throwing out attacks on his budget as a potential response to his investigation into corruption. Funny how his internal corruption can be OK in his mind but the Colonies deal, albeit of greater financial impact, is bad. Ok Neil, you just started to uncover bigger things when you went after Mikey&#039;s personal police force motor pool fraud. Keep digging!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo Cons? Brown is a Neo Con? Hmmmm. Don&#8217;t see how anyone that sat around protesting Vietnam and smoked dope with Linda Rondstadt can earn that label but&#8230;.</p><p>Funny how Mikey is now throwing out attacks on his budget as a potential response to his investigation into corruption. Funny how his internal corruption can be OK in his mind but the Colonies deal, albeit of greater financial impact, is bad. Ok Neil, you just started to uncover bigger things when you went after Mikey&#8217;s personal police force motor pool fraud. Keep digging!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fed-Up</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/02/11/rivpe-da-102-million-stolen-from-taxpayers/comment-page-1/#comment-649</link> <dc:creator>Fed-Up</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:30:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2953#comment-649</guid> <description>Your so right Truthseeker!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your so right Truthseeker!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: truthseekerSBC</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/02/11/rivpe-da-102-million-stolen-from-taxpayers/comment-page-1/#comment-646</link> <dc:creator>truthseekerSBC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2953#comment-646</guid> <description>NOW... it&#039;s getting to be a real game of poker...the machine eating, the machine...for us all to see,in real time...brown and ramos...neo-con&#039;s from opposing camps teaming together...to keep a lid on this festering mess...and paint a picture that skews the truth...this is the corrupt fighting for power amongest themselves....look at the willingness of the AG to get involved...and I can&#039;t think for one minute that the AG&#039;s here to do the people&#039;s work or uphold the law...from my point of view...more &#039;political mutual masterbation&#039;...strange bedfellows, brown and ramos...BIG RED FLAG!!!
This round of charges...jim maybe pay-back or push-back because of the information the blogs put out(thats the power they don&#039;t have)...at any rate is shows ramos is responding....my guess his thinking is, if he can survive until the elections the voting machines will garantee his return to the DA&#039;s office....by the smallest of margins of course!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOW&#8230; it&#8217;s getting to be a real game of poker&#8230;the machine eating, the machine&#8230;for us all to see,in real time&#8230;brown and ramos&#8230;neo-con&#8217;s from opposing camps teaming together&#8230;to keep a lid on this festering mess&#8230;and paint a picture that skews the truth&#8230;this is the corrupt fighting for power amongest themselves&#8230;.look at the willingness of the AG to get involved&#8230;and I can&#8217;t think for one minute that the AG&#8217;s here to do the people&#8217;s work or uphold the law&#8230;from my point of view&#8230;more &#8216;political mutual masterbation&#8217;&#8230;strange bedfellows, brown and ramos&#8230;BIG RED FLAG!!!<br
/> This round of charges&#8230;jim maybe pay-back or push-back because of the information the blogs put out(thats the power they don&#8217;t have)&#8230;at any rate is shows ramos is responding&#8230;.my guess his thinking is, if he can survive until the elections the voting machines will garantee his return to the DA&#8217;s office&#8230;.by the smallest of margins of course!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
