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> <channel><title>Comments on: InlandPolitics: S.B. County: Ramos investigation report released</title> <atom:link href="http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/01/27/inlandpolitics-s-b-county-ramos-investigation-report-released/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/01/27/inlandpolitics-s-b-county-ramos-investigation-report-released/</link> <description>Politics, Government and Business in Southern California&#039;s Inland Empire</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:50:49 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: AntiCorruptionUnit</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/01/27/inlandpolitics-s-b-county-ramos-investigation-report-released/comment-page-1/#comment-356</link> <dc:creator>AntiCorruptionUnit</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:01:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2131#comment-356</guid> <description>I forgot to thank the BOS for releasing this report. I really hope you folks see some of what we mentioned in here.
If Stringer and Lamberto were in charge of this project, I think it would be a good basis for firing both of them.
You now have this report and the Hueston report at a cost of $495,000.00 dollars and both leave to many questions unanswered.
I have learned in the last 3 years that lawyers suck when it comes to investigations, hopefully so have you.
PLEASE try and use someone who is not so politically correct in their duties when looking for the truth.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to thank the BOS for releasing this report. I really hope you folks see some of what we mentioned in here.</p><p>If Stringer and Lamberto were in charge of this project, I think it would be a good basis for firing both of them.</p><p>You now have this report and the Hueston report at a cost of $495,000.00 dollars and both leave to many questions unanswered.</p><p>I have learned in the last 3 years that lawyers suck when it comes to investigations, hopefully so have you.</p><p>PLEASE try and use someone who is not so politically correct in their duties when looking for the truth.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Disgusted Citizen</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/01/27/inlandpolitics-s-b-county-ramos-investigation-report-released/comment-page-1/#comment-353</link> <dc:creator>Disgusted Citizen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:31:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2131#comment-353</guid> <description>What a steaming pile of crap, I just skimmed.  Obviously a sham from the get go.  Why weren&#039;t the other DA&#039;s like Beth Hauser interviewed to see if they confirmed or denied the rumors and/or felt there was a hostile work environment?  What about the Boxer incident...wasn&#039;t that actually far more egregious than the Ristow affair, considering the far reaching implications and ethical duties on both sides of that one?  And they are both county employees!!  In Ristow&#039;s civil lawsuit, this would all be fair game for discovery and relevant to show a pattern of misconduct.  One thing is for sure, Ms. Ristow did not know who her friends were, eh, Camille?
How much more money was wasted just interviewing all these people about stupid things, keeping in mind these are all the highest paid county employees, save Ristow herself.  I love the footnote, too, about how Ristow&#039;s supervisor&#039;s excuse for tolerating her was b/c if they got rid of her, they&#039;d get no replacement, but yet, as I understand it she did no work, anyway.  So b/w the $140,000 they spent on the law firm and another $100,000 (conservatively) in employee hours wasted documenting this crap about her 4 hour lunch and her tattoo, all to discipline a $25-$30,000/year employee?  You may as well have just paid her $250,000 to go away, you idiots, and had her sign a confidentiality agreement.  Now everyone will know how stupid and frivilous the county is, and hopefully see how far you will to protect Mikey.  I guess the endorsement from the law enforcement unions really is that strong, eh?
Reading b/w the lines though, obviously there was a chummy email b/w Ramos and County Counsel Andy Hartzel....thanks Andy, for trying to talk Ristow out of going to the press by pretending you care.  Gee, I wonder if Andy had a hand in hiring the outside counsel?
And how did she get her personal cell number??  No way a tech would have that, absolutely no reason for that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a steaming pile of crap, I just skimmed.  Obviously a sham from the get go.  Why weren&#8217;t the other DA&#8217;s like Beth Hauser interviewed to see if they confirmed or denied the rumors and/or felt there was a hostile work environment?  What about the Boxer incident&#8230;wasn&#8217;t that actually far more egregious than the Ristow affair, considering the far reaching implications and ethical duties on both sides of that one?  And they are both county employees!!  In Ristow&#8217;s civil lawsuit, this would all be fair game for discovery and relevant to show a pattern of misconduct.  One thing is for sure, Ms. Ristow did not know who her friends were, eh, Camille?</p><p>How much more money was wasted just interviewing all these people about stupid things, keeping in mind these are all the highest paid county employees, save Ristow herself.  I love the footnote, too, about how Ristow&#8217;s supervisor&#8217;s excuse for tolerating her was b/c if they got rid of her, they&#8217;d get no replacement, but yet, as I understand it she did no work, anyway.  So b/w the $140,000 they spent on the law firm and another $100,000 (conservatively) in employee hours wasted documenting this crap about her 4 hour lunch and her tattoo, all to discipline a $25-$30,000/year employee?  You may as well have just paid her $250,000 to go away, you idiots, and had her sign a confidentiality agreement.  Now everyone will know how stupid and frivilous the county is, and hopefully see how far you will to protect Mikey.  I guess the endorsement from the law enforcement unions really is that strong, eh?</p><p>Reading b/w the lines though, obviously there was a chummy email b/w Ramos and County Counsel Andy Hartzel&#8230;.thanks Andy, for trying to talk Ristow out of going to the press by pretending you care.  Gee, I wonder if Andy had a hand in hiring the outside counsel?</p><p>And how did she get her personal cell number??  No way a tech would have that, absolutely no reason for that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Little Stevie Wonder</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/01/27/inlandpolitics-s-b-county-ramos-investigation-report-released/comment-page-1/#comment-352</link> <dc:creator>Little Stevie Wonder</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:05:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2131#comment-352</guid> <description>Where is the sex?  This is the most boring sex report ever, and we paid $140,000 for this rubbish!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the sex?  This is the most boring sex report ever, and we paid $140,000 for this rubbish!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NutnBolt</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/01/27/inlandpolitics-s-b-county-ramos-investigation-report-released/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link> <dc:creator>NutnBolt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:20:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2131#comment-350</guid> <description>Well, the way I read the report is that Cheryl brought this upon herself and has no one else to blame.  Clearly, she has some serious  issues that need medical attention.  Hope you get the help you need Cheryl oh and I love that little quote you have on the bottom of you email signature line.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the way I read the report is that Cheryl brought this upon herself and has no one else to blame.  Clearly, she has some serious  issues that need medical attention.  Hope you get the help you need Cheryl oh and I love that little quote you have on the bottom of you email signature line.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/01/27/inlandpolitics-s-b-county-ramos-investigation-report-released/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:18:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2131#comment-349</guid> <description>Why did the attorneys not confront Ramos directly re the allegations in Exhibit H?  County Counsel seems to take the Sentinel very seriously.  They also must take this blog and iepolitics very seriously.  Go Jim!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did the attorneys not confront Ramos directly re the allegations in Exhibit H?  County Counsel seems to take the Sentinel very seriously.  They also must take this blog and iepolitics very seriously.  Go Jim!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AntiCorruptionUnit</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/01/27/inlandpolitics-s-b-county-ramos-investigation-report-released/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link> <dc:creator>AntiCorruptionUnit</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:57:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2131#comment-348</guid> <description>I am at page 45 so far. I think this report is going to bite the County in the butt as to their standards and practice.
If Ristow lied and the DA&#039;s office is concerned about that, they should be more concerned about Ramos lying in a much greater way than a 4 hour lunch.
And the supervisor who handled that lunch hour issue with Ristow, not now, but you better hope you don&#039;t have double standards on that issue. I see how the supervisor sidestepped that issue when confronted by Ristow.
WOW, such a big deal on tatoos around the DA&#039;s office. They should start a tattoo police division.
Witness interviews very casual, NOT TAPE recorded for accuracy. SHOULD have been video taped spending the money the BOS did. First year law student can have fun with this report.
Should have at least had a stenographer in on this. No real checks and balances for telling the truth. Aggressive interviewing was not on these lawyers agenda. Prior instructions from Stringer?
SOMEONE is going to take the OPINION of two high paid attorneys based on their note taking. NOT!!!!
Ramos&#039;s interview reminds me of Bill Clinton&#039;s deposition. LOL!!!! WHAT a joke.
Sorry BOS members, I could have done better than this at a much cheaper rate, at least the first 45 pages.
People laugh at the Sentinal, IT sure seems folks were jumping around there when the article came out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am at page 45 so far. I think this report is going to bite the County in the butt as to their standards and practice.</p><p>If Ristow lied and the DA&#8217;s office is concerned about that, they should be more concerned about Ramos lying in a much greater way than a 4 hour lunch.</p><p>And the supervisor who handled that lunch hour issue with Ristow, not now, but you better hope you don&#8217;t have double standards on that issue. I see how the supervisor sidestepped that issue when confronted by Ristow.</p><p>WOW, such a big deal on tatoos around the DA&#8217;s office. They should start a tattoo police division.</p><p>Witness interviews very casual, NOT TAPE recorded for accuracy. SHOULD have been video taped spending the money the BOS did. First year law student can have fun with this report.</p><p>Should have at least had a stenographer in on this. No real checks and balances for telling the truth. Aggressive interviewing was not on these lawyers agenda. Prior instructions from Stringer?</p><p>SOMEONE is going to take the OPINION of two high paid attorneys based on their note taking. NOT!!!!</p><p>Ramos&#8217;s interview reminds me of Bill Clinton&#8217;s deposition. LOL!!!! WHAT a joke.</p><p>Sorry BOS members, I could have done better than this at a much cheaper rate, at least the first 45 pages.</p><p>People laugh at the Sentinal, IT sure seems folks were jumping around there when the article came out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: outsider</title><link>http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/2010/01/27/inlandpolitics-s-b-county-ramos-investigation-report-released/comment-page-1/#comment-345</link> <dc:creator>outsider</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:02:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://inlandpolitics.com/blog/?p=2131#comment-345</guid> <description>The Board knows what REALLY has been going on. Now that they have an idea of the potential legal liability that Ramos has floating out there what are they going to do about it?
Isnt it the law that Board members who have been told about the potential liability become personally liable when future cases occur? Well, Mr Ovitt are you prepared to be personally sued when Ramos continues acting out? You KNOW he cant stop. Ask your crack county counsel about personal liability of elected office holders. Even an incompetent attorney like stringer will tell you that the county CANT pay harrassment damages against a elected.
Is it worth the risk Mr Chairman? Maybe Kirk really does have a plan that will rid the county of the liability posed by Mr Ramos. Since the FPPC referral the Board has nothing to worry about (unless Ramos gets reelected--the watch out!)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Board knows what REALLY has been going on. Now that they have an idea of the potential legal liability that Ramos has floating out there what are they going to do about it?</p><p>Isnt it the law that Board members who have been told about the potential liability become personally liable when future cases occur? Well, Mr Ovitt are you prepared to be personally sued when Ramos continues acting out? You KNOW he cant stop. Ask your crack county counsel about personal liability of elected office holders. Even an incompetent attorney like stringer will tell you that the county CANT pay harrassment damages against a elected.</p><p>Is it worth the risk Mr Chairman? Maybe Kirk really does have a plan that will rid the county of the liability posed by Mr Ramos. Since the FPPC referral the Board has nothing to worry about (unless Ramos gets reelected&#8211;the watch out!)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
